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Find a good available .com domain (sive.rs)
677 points by Tomte on June 8, 2022 | hide | past | favorite | 288 comments


Honestly I think domain names should be the least of your worries when building something. You can always add a "get" prefix or "app" suffix (or a bunch of other options). If you are sold on a company name then by all means, grab the domain but don't confuse "buying a domain" with "making actual progress".

When I was younger I used to snap up domain names for every little idea I had. I executed on less than 1% of those ideas and ended up letting the domain expire 1-2 years later when I could finally admit to myself I was never going to pursue it. Literally hundreds of dollars flushed down the toilet all to get a temporary rush.

I know that I have issues with thinking "spending money" === "making progress" (be it on home improvement projects or web apps) and I know I'm not alone. If all you need is a domain to launch your product then go ahead and start looking, otherwise it's just a dopamine distraction.


re: “When I was younger I used to snap up domain names for every little idea I had.”:

I am 71 years old and I am still do this. Good for you stopping!

Concerning the article: a clever idea but I think it is better manually thinking of words that match your idea and searching for similar free domain names - that doesn’t take much time.


Same, pretty much. Also, proofread the first sentence of your profile at https://leanpub.com/u/markwatson, which needs an “is” after “Mark Watson”.


Thanks!


I pretty much stopped obsessing over domain names after seeing the success of "google". Ultimately it is the product/service/business that matters. Sure, we all try to get a domain name that we want/like but no need obsessing over it. It sucks that most of us didn't know what to do in 1994 when lot of dictionary words were available. But it is what it is.


What's wrong with Google? I'm sure the origin (googolplex) is lost on most people, but it seems like a decent brand name to me. On top of which, consider if Yahoo! had won the search market, i don't think their brand would've become a universal verb.

Granted, I don't believe it was an explicit choice to have a "verbale" brand-name.

But you (and many others in this thread) are right that names often don't matter that much. A better product will normally win regardless of the name, and once it does it's name will become "normalized". Duckduckgo might be such an example.. terrible name (IMO), yet respected by many as a Google-alternative.

Your product likely won't fail because of a bad name, but it doesn't hurt to have a good one.



You're saying all this with the benefit of hindsight. Google is a gibberish name, and upon first hearing it, sounds a bit childish, like baby-speak (goo goo ga ga) or silly (similar to "giggle"). If a company with a name like that can become one of the most valuable companies in the world, it proves the name doesn't matter that much.


The OP didn’t say anything was wrong with Google and you repeated exactly what they were getting at.


I argued Google is a good name (IMO, subjectively) in the first part, while I understood OP as saying it's a bad one and that the company succeeded in spite of it (which I indeed agreed with in the second part). I've also already acknowledged said agreement/reiteration in my comment.


Google is a great name -- easily the best name among the top 5 tech companies. It's unique, short, can be "verbed" and is easy to memorize and pronounce for English speakers and many non English speakers alike.


I am making an Open Source CMS optimized for the cloud, in .NET. I got the domain cloudy.net. Needless to say I'm pretty stoked!


See also: "Change Your Name" - http://www.paulgraham.com/name.html


> The problem with not having the .com of your name is that it signals weakness.

That was wrong in 2015 and it is wrong now.

What is seen as validation to users in Europe is different to North America is different to Asia. You can run a whole business in a group chat back then, and North America is just catching on to that, barely moving off of the concept of a .com presence and being okay that other TLD's are good enough too. When you don't even need a website.

Do the thing that makes revenue.

At this point its simple to me: if you are relying on an audience that instinctively types .com or if you think you need a .com for a search result or ad campaign, that's what you're doing wrong. Like, are you intentionally selling to pensioners? Is that the audience you want? People that had the same 30 years as you did to figure out to use a computer but made 30 years of excuses instead?


it doesn't change the fact that .com is and will forever be the de facto TLD

even if you succeed with appthatslaps.millennial, you're still going to redirect appthatslaps.com to it


Maybe, but I'm already seen enough 15-25-35 y.o. people who doesn't understand the concept of a domain name nor of a website. There is a significant overlap between them and people who primarily or only uses mobile devices to access Internet or to use any applications.


its more like an optional tld that wont do anything for your engagement, actual revenue, or air of legitimacy


it will help all of those, by the people who couldn't remember your novelty tld autonomically trying .com


The default for people who couldn't remember seems to have become typing it into google. It helps that most browsers support omnibox type search


people reach your site by clicking through on social media and chatting apps - and referencing those places again if they cant remember

unless you specifically have targeted and proven that an audience is going to bring value to you, and they use .com and search engines to find you, then there is no reason to cater to these luddite and elderly people. Its a deprecated assumption only relevant to deprecated people.


> The problem with not having the .com of your name is that it signals weakness.

Spending money on trivialities is not how you project strength. If your business is so fragile it rests on the reputation of its TLD, you are already weak.


Agree 100% about domain names. The only exceptions could be for a personal blog perhaps or a brand.


One fun paranoid thought I ponder over when getting a domain: What if someone with a lot of money and a distaste for what I write decides to buy the .com version of my site and post ugly photos of me to it? For me, I’d rather obviate that and just find an adequate .com.


Something brandable is worth holding on to IMO, especially if it's distinctive enough to trademark which likely means there isn't a lot of search competition either.


Having the actual .com domain for your business signalise quality and authenticity, difficult to imagine Amazon having getamazon.com.

That being said, I also spend many (good hours) dreaming away while buying all sorts of domain names for my fictitious startups. I found that when using the startup niche as suffix or prefix, the domain is sometimes available. Had plenty of luck buying "git-what-ever".com domains, like git18n.com (though I am not sure how clever that naming really is).


Step 1: Obtain gethotdogs.com

Step 2: Make billions.

Step 3: Buy hotdogs.com with your massive amounts of VC funds^W^Wcash.

This is what Facebook (thefacebook.com), Dropbox (getdropbox.com), etc did.


Counterpoint 1: Steam could not buy steam.com.

Counterpoint 2: Domain scalpers will demand ridiculous prices if they believe that you are affiliated with a similar-sounding domain or company.


Valve isn't buying steam.com because they don't want to, not because they can't.

> Domain scalpers will demand ridiculous prices if they believe that you are affiliated with a similar-sounding domain or company

Anyone sitting on steam.com right now, thinking that Valve is more likely to buy it tomorrow than they are today is delusional. Domain names and TLDs are becoming less relevant day by day and especially with Valve/Steam's computer savvy, gamer userbase, I don't think they really need steam.com. It could be helpful but if they've already decided they don't want it today then they probably won't change their minds tomorrow.


Steam hasn't been really slowed down by not having steam.com however - even Valve itself doesn't have valve.com

Ever since URL bars defaulted to a web search instead of just adding www.com to the word the value of a one word dot com has dropped.


Crazy that the owners of steam.com and valve.com haven't sold. It's pretty obvious who they should sell to, they just need to agree on a price.


The steam URL is kind of whimsical. I quite enjoyed when Stardock created their competing service in the same vein:

Valve : Steam : steampowered.com

Stardock : Impulse : impulsedriven.com


Steam has steampowered.com and steamcommunity.com


This only works if you are trying to go hyperscale. Most side projects do not qualify.


Facebook used to be thefacebook.com. It only changed after they were already successful.


But Facebook was actually called theFacebook back then, so not sure if this is a valid comparison.


Do only us old farts remember the canonical example of having to buy your .com after you've made it very valuable? [0]

[0] https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/compaq-buys-...


I remember altavista.digital.com from back when people thought subdomains were really going to matter - but eventually they went away and Google took over.

Ha! The current owners still have altavista.digital.com - it has some history thing.


steampowered.com


I have been doing the same thing for years, and just last week I finally executed a personal project I had been thinking about for months, and I just used the free subdomain that came with the hosting provider I used. Also, https://freedns.afraid.org/ is a great source for interesting names


The problem with freedns is that the vast majority of them being to users. I had dead.sexypenguins.com for several years, and was using it as a vhost for IRC, for email, and as a dyndns name. Then one day it stopped working. I considered buying it myself, but it had already been bought up by the time I noticed. It's still not available now; someone owns it and is not using it for web hosting. The same thing happened to me with various other hosts available on freedns. If the domain you pick at freedns isn't owned by freedns, don't expect it to stay around.


Everything you say is generally reasonable (though business and domain names can very much matter) but

> Literally hundreds of dollars flushed down the toilet all to get a temporary rush.

Is that really so bad? We pay hundreds of dollars for temporary rushes all the time.


Isn't "flushing money down the toilet for a dopamine rush" the definition of a hobby?


If it isn't, it should be.


>> You can always add a "get" prefix or "app" suffix (or a bunch of other options). If you are sold on a company name then by all means, grab the domain.

I totally agree, you can always "upgrade" later to a better, shorter, or more appropriate domain later. The TLD doesn't matter, either. The only potential exception to this would be if you're building something "local", whereas you'd want to get the ccTLD domain if you're targeting users in one particular country.


That assumes such a domain is available. There's an entire cottage industry around snapping up short or interesting domains and renting them to customers. https://venture.com/ it looks like their entire business model involves squatting on domains and renting to interested people.


Wordle is a pretty good example of how much success you can have with an unremarkable and unmemorable domain name.


Wordle is a great name - it's short, only two syllables and relates directly to the product.

A better example of a bad name might be Ycombinator. It's not immediately obvious what it means, and if you say it aloud it sounds like a question. Doesn't seem to matter much if you're successful enough though.


Wordle is a great name. But strictly speaking, at no point there was `wordle.com` or anything similar. Wordle always lived as a humble page on a larger domain. Which I believe was the point of the original comment: That if your product (name) is good, domain is secondary. The vast majority of users can just google at this point (which might not have been true 20 years ago).


For context, the original URL was http://www.powerlanguage.co.uk/wordle

Now it's https://www.nytimes.com/games/wordle/index.html

It's never been wordle.com (or even at any TLD), and despite that:

> Over 300,000 people played Wordle on January 2, 2022, up from 90 players on November 1, 2021, a figure that rose to over 2 million a week later. [1]

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wordle#Rise_in_popularity


Agree.

I have a couple of fairly high value domains I've kept I'm interested in selling, but there isn't a great market I've found for this instead of letting them go?


But is it a good one? There are better methods for finding an actually good domain name, you just have to think outside the box and come up with new ideas constantly.

For example these domains should be available wink wink: editormag.com geekyglossary.com infiniteiterator.com infographics365.com minutequestions.com museumology.com onlinehistorian.com webdesigndaily.com donateyourcomputerpower.com lazysites.com scorchingearth.com thechronoscope.com 24hourdigitalclock.com adfunkr.com aircontroltower.com aracina.com artistreferences.com athletelite.com askaboutamerica.com audiofeedr.com australers.com babysnooker.com beercounting.com bipabit.com bonfirekids.com bookinthebag.com cactusportal.com californiculture.com cheerfulservices.com complimentopia.com crocotin.com dreadpirateradio.com egoarbitrage.com firsttimebuyeralert.com gardenomat.com gigaspeakers.com hipsterian.com kateke.com messingwithyourmind.com myfitnessdoctor.com mypassword123.com orgasmatron5000.com panonyx.com propmakerz.com ricefactor.com thrillerdomains.com ulugulu.com


Thought no one would notice the orgasmatron5000 eh? I’m onto you.

My family once manufactured a sex toy that was popular enough for someone to quit their job, so that brought back memories. Sadly the popularity dried up when their YouTube video stopped being recommended as much.

It was a real DaVinci-workshop type operation. I’m still amazed how much logistics went into it. Also art ability and sculpting. You have to be able to make molds, which are the inverse of the shape you want to cast. It’s really difficult.


I now have a clear image of the Family Sillysaurusx. Dad is hard at work designing dildos. Mum and the kids have got a production line going. The littlest sculpts the wavy lines on the Cliterminator Pro. Finally, Benjy the dog carries the finished product over to the delivery parcel (unmarked brown paper) and drops it in. Mmmm! What's that cooking in the oven? Do I smell cherry pie?


It was actually for guys, not a dildo. Basically a silicone bag you could fill with water. Getting the shape right was the hardest part, since if you think about how to mold something like that you’ll run into a bunch of problems.

Your description wasn’t far off, by the way! Thanks for the laugh.


  > Getting the shape right was the hardest part, since if you think about
  > how to mold something like that you’ll run into a bunch of problems.
Shape of the part that interfaces with the guy's anatomy? I wonder what types of problems?

How pliable is the silicone bag? Human women and men come in a variety of interface shapes yet it usually works out. Could different size bags be manufactured?


Bingo.

I wasn't involved directly, so unfortunately this is a game of telephone. This was also back in 2012 through 2015, so it's been some time. But here's my understanding of it.

Suppose the problem is to make a silicone bag that you can fill with warm water. That wouldn't be easy, but it'd be much easier.

To make something like that out of silicone, you have to pour some material into a mold, and let it sit. (I think the material was called Dragon Skin, but I'm not sure.) Think of it like cooking pancakes: You could imagine pouring this silicone into a frying pan and letting it sit, and you'd end up with a flat disc of silicone. So to make a bag, you'd want it to be a bowl. But of course if you pour it into a bowl, you'll end up with a spherical-ish disc of silicone that's flat on top, because it all pools to the bottom.

So your next attempt might be to put one bowl into another bowl, and then pour the silicone between the two bowls. That way the top bowl fixes the problem of it coming out like a flat disc. The silicone is sandwiched between the two bowls, and so you end up getting a shape that looks like the bowl on the bottom. Progress! That's closer to something that can hold water.

(Someone just told me that the shape wasn't actually the hardest part. The hardest part was materials. Dragon Skin was just one component. She said it was for the spine, whatever that means. But it wasn't the primary material, which needed to feel right and be easy to work with. I'll just note that here and continue on where I left off above. Basically, it needs to feel like skin, not rubber.)

But to get something that can actually hold water, you need it to be something closer to a flask shape. You could imagine a bowling ball inside another, smaller bowling ball, and then pouring the silicone inbetween the two and letting it sit.

Question: How do you get the silicone out? The silicone is now wrapped around the inner bowling ball. Hmm.

Once you solve all of those problems, then you start to focus on the dynamics of man-woman interaction and anatomy. That requires a mold which you can shape very precisely. I believe they ended up sculpting the molds out of clay, then turning it into something stronger through a process I don't understand.

To get the silicone out of the damn molds, they needed to invent a whole contraption that was like a giant lever. It would hook onto the inner mold and pull real hard on it, and pop! The whole thing comes out. It'd be totally impossible to pull it out with your bare hands.

Then you run into problems like, there are bubbles in the material, so this needs to be done inside a vacuum chamber to get all the bubbles out.

Finally there's the whole problem of putting a bow on it and making it look nice. You need packaging, a manual, and a reliable velcro strap that won't leak water. It needs to look professional. And all of this needs to be scalable so that when you suddenly get 200 orders because your vagina hot water bag went viral, you can fulfill those orders in a reasonable timeframe and get paid.

There's a bunch of funny stories from that era. The postal delivery people got super curious about what we were up to. (At this point they'd moved into an actual building, not the family house.) One day he found an excuse to come in, strutting around with a big smirk on his face. Then next time they went to drop off the packages for delivery at the post office, the lady there was like oh, you're the people that make the sex toys! They were like yeahhh, that's us.

It was a very interesting experience. It's a shame the business ended up folding due to lack of financing for all the production issues.


Very interesting, thank you! I do prefer bags of mostly water that require more maintenance than the silicone bags, but it is good to know that the option exists (or did exist).


I don’t suppose you watch Star Trek? “Ugly bags of mostly water” was a line from the show. Just wanted to be like that spiderman meme where we both point at each other.

It’s actually fascinating that there still aren’t any products like that on the market. The water is what makes it feel real. Or at least a lot nicer than a fleshlight.


This is why I love HN, stories like this.


The retailer, clearly at a loss for words manages to gasp, "That's quite a company. What do you call yourselves?"

The staff all strike a pose and shout "The Aristocrats!!!"


For those unfamiliar with the reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Aristocrats


Are you saying that the product sold enough so that someone involved could quit their job to produce it, or that someone enjoyed the product enough that they decided to go all in on using it?


The former. They were a single-income household at the time, so it was a big decision. But they sensed that it was their only chance to get wealthy, so they went for it. I really respect that.

It's unfortunate it didn't work out, but that's life. They regretted leaving their job and ended up losing the family house, but they recovered after a time. They're now in a job they like renting a house they like.

The molds were the heart and soul of the project, since they were the only irreplaceable component. They ended up throwing those into a dumpster. As a final twist, a family friend happened to be working at the trash center and spotted the molds as they were coming through. So even when they were trying to get rid of it like it was a monkey's paw, it still didn't go out without being noticed one last time.

One of ya'll should try your hand at it. As with programming, the problems are tough but solvable (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31667798) and as far as I know there's still nothing like it on the market, with plenty of demand.

At one point they were selling multiple color varieties, and people would buy all three colors. I asked if there was any other difference, and he said nope, just color added via dye. So there's a real opportunity for an enterprising sculptor that happens to be reading this.

(I don't know much else and I do ML nowadays, so good luck! But feel free to DM for advice I guess. https://www.smooth-on.com/product-line/dragon-skin/ was part of the materials they used, but apparently it was too rigid for the skin. It was for internal support.)


"orgasmatron5000 cannot be reached"


the orgasmotron5000 developed from their previous invention, babysnooker.com


Your domain ideas are pretty good. You could sell your creativity as a service. 50 bucks for 3-5 name options for someone's side project, if you're that good at coming up with them you'd save everyone some time.


*Dropped some more (~120) here:* https://gist.github.com/3rd/b2d0b2b26493de07ebb2a5ad5e67db1e

Maybe someone finds a name for their blog/project/something.


Did you make these manually, ie. with your imagination? Good stuff.


I'd say 50% of it is manual work.


yucktastic.com - wonder what would be on such a site ha


Products that were inspired by Nickelodeon's green slime?



a web forum for Amazon users to discuss the products they received instead of the product the ordered


/r/TIHI (Thanks, I hate it)


> you just have to think outside the box and come up with new ideas constantly.

This is the problem, not the solution.


13 hours after your comment, 57 of the domains you've posted so far have been registered today. Only 6 were already registered. Nice!

I would like to know how you came up with these, they're pretty good.


All taken by squatters in 3.. 2.. 1...


> you just have to think outside the box and come up with new ideas constantly.

This is something that, to my great shame, I've always struggled with. Any recommendations for improving in this area?


I can't find a good reference, but there was a "standard" process for being creative:

Step 0: Get yourself in front of a paper or whiteboard. Eliminate distractions.

Step 1: Get all of the BS out of your head. Whatever comes out. Do not try to discuss, assess, etc., just get it out of your head.

Step 2: Take a step back and start assessing. Is there anything valuable? What if you pair things together?

I heard people applying this to ideate on a new start-up, brand, domain name, etc.


That's brainstorming, basically; just come out with ideas and say "yes and" instead of "but", save any judgments and but what ifs for later.


Take long showers or baths and let your mind wander. Do sports where you're alone for a long time, like running or surfing.



On YouTube search “John Cleese on creativity in management”


Or check out his book “Creativity: A Short and Cheerful Guide”. It’s pretty short and the contents are pretty much that video.


Drugs. Bad for generating ideas, but makes your ability to generate them when you're sober better.


Sometimes now, if you are careful about dose. It can free the doubts and writers block. Hence the phrase a few write-y friends of mine like to repeat: write drunk, edit sober. Or to put it a little more prosaically: you can edit a bad page, you can't edit a blank page.


Buy a thesaurus, then use it.


or visit thesaurus.com


Love your creativity!

Requesting a domain name just in case: would love a domain name for a side project:

It will allow users to list what they own (maybe a photo or video, idk yet), and they'll be able to consult it, but other people can also check what they have.


>but other people can also check what they have.

breakingandentering.com or ilovereplacingmybrokenwindows.com or anentirecatalogueoffreestufftosteal.com?

What would be the purpose of your side project? I'm very confused by it. Not trying to be disrespectful, but it just sounds like an easy way to case a home for a burglary.


Not the parent poster .. but...

I have over a hundred board and card games... Total value on resell market is not that great (especially factoring the value per trip into the house, and relative low value per cubic foot of storage it claims in your car/van)... but having such a list outside google sheets would be helpful.. tells people what we already have if they want to gift items, could have running discussions on games, etc.


Well, then these could work:

  - collectiblesquare.com
  - mystuffpage.com
  - sellsomecrap.com


Is this just for bragging rights, or like a sharing website? The site neighborgoods used to do that, for sharing tools, kayaks, whatever.


Boardgamegeek lets you mark your collection, including "Want to trade"


yawnshoppe


Posted more on a different thread not to spam this one: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31675510


Dang dude, love your creativity! Let me know if I can contact you for some personalized domain suggestions for ideas I have but cannot come up with domain names for?


Hey, sure! Check my profile for contact.


> messingwithyourmind.com

Yoink, thank you. Seems perfect for my new email.


Literally all already squatted.


Not all -- orgasmatron5000.com is still available! I'm surprised, I thought that would be the first one to go.


I think OP owns these which is why they posted this


Not true at all.


10 months later - the following SEO spam came into the HN inbox this morning (actual inbox, not the spam bin):

How is your day today? Hope it's good. Sorry to inform you that your website orgasmatron5000.com is highly inactive on top search engines like Google, yahoo, Bing, etc.

That was one obscure in-joke...


Programmatic land grabs like this is why people today must suffer from lack of remaining .com domain names.

Nothing wrong with the writer of this post. I think this is a rational behavior that should be considered "expected". Whoever designed domain name registration/ownership model is to blame for failing to create a system which can efficiently give right domain names to people who actually need them and can use them for good (aka actually hosting businesses or contents instead of scalping).


Some newer TLDs like .dev or .app have a tiered pricing structure. So it becomes less economically feasible to squat the best names. They also released them in stages when the TLD first went live.

This guy (https://medium.com/@amd_2793/my-million-dollar-domain-hobby-...) actually used Google's rankings of domain value from .app to then squat domains on two other flat priced TLDs - io and ai!


Realistically this problem will never be solved while we only support fixed domain extensions and act like some are more legit than others. Like what gives DNS providers the right to say what's a valid extension or not? Just support any string ffs.

Not to mention the country restricted ones that you can only get if you're a resident, like bruh.


There are pros to the current system.

That said, part of the issue you flag is just perception. It's like going with a financial services firm that has a Wall Street or "Fifth Avenue" address in New York City versus a firm that has an address in Hoboken, New Jersey.

Both might be fine but we often attach significance to an address (even if its just a mailbox).

To your last point, I think its ultimately good that (many) Country restricted TLDs have geographic restrictions.


OP says you want .com

What's wrong with .org?


Nothing inherently, it doesn't have the “full of spammers” stigma of .xyz and so forth, though some seem to think it inherently means non-profit/non-commercial (sort of true, it was defined as for organisations not fitting in other tlds where .com was one of those and intended for commercial use) and think .com therefor looks more serious.

Also: if you take the .org and the .com is already in use, be ready to have the name taken off you if they get successful, or for some of your users to mistakenly go to the wrong place. To avoid one of those things happening later if the .com is available now you could buy both, but then the availability of the .com becomes the deciding factor again not the .org and you are paying for two domains.


i see, thanks


The inability to find any available domain names was one of the primary reasons for us to create Mashword. (https://mashword.com) You can enter the name you are looking for and it will quickly suggest similarly spelled or sounding names to the one you entered.


Domains should cost $500/yr


Some years afterward:

"Human-readable domains should not be the sole province of the rich! Sign the petition at, *sigh*, c12a:d1e0:ae77:dff5:2260:c017:26a9:b447"


.ai costs $70 a year and that seems to be enough to keep most squatting from happening. Some available domains:

thirty.ai topsy.ai hierarch.ai bisect.ai branching.ai saline.ai spume.ai cadr.ai

I'm sure using the dictionary method you could find a ton more.


One of my hobbies is the diametric opposite of this approach, I enjoy trawling domain auctions for short .coms that don't include any dictionary words but still sound fun. I love names like Quora that are meaningless but still somehow feel like they should be a real word! I believe the academic category for these is "lexical gap". During the pandemic I got a little too much into it and so now I'm actually busy working on a site to list them for sale - https://wuzmo.com - the plan is to make it essentially a cheap brandbucket.


Quora is a real word, it is the plural of Quorum.


It seems it's not how the site got the name:

https://www.quora.com/Does-Quora-come-from-the-plural-versio...


The most upvoted answer seems totally made up.

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=%22Quora+...


Well well, I did not know that.. Thanks for expanding my vocab! Maybe a better example would have been the similar Zuora!


Actually, Zuora is the plural of Zuorum (according to many poorly OCR'd PDFs I found on google). :D


> I believe the academic category for these is "lexical gap"

Lexical gap refers to potential words that, with regards to the language morphology or semantic rules, could have been part of the language.

I think it's systematic gap that might apply to some of the domains you're squatting.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accidental_gap


how is this not squatting and thus deplorable?


Squatting has an intention behind it. You don't call ancient coin collectors deplorable squatters because they are taking limited stock off the market.


But they're not collecting or w/e, they're searching and buying for the purpose of reselling. Which.. is squatting, no?


No they're collecting interesting domains, and then they said it got out of hand during the pandemic, and now theyre selling their collection.


It's squatting if you're not using the domain name for anything other than reselling it.


Furthermore, even adding little icons to hint as to what the domain might be used for. I think it's a cool little idea.


I think DALL-E would be a good way to come up with these. The nonsense text it adds to images is usually pronouncable and somehow always seems to match the theme you give it. GilaWhamm.com, anyone?


Domains for the Rest of Us. September 2020. 347 points. 200 comments. <https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24538758>

Now dead.


I have found amazing domain names by just checking auctions daily. I got both file.io and impervious.com on Flippa for around a few thousand each. I've started companies on both of these domains.

If you just check once a year, you likely won't find a good one. But if you check almost daily for years, you will eventually strike gold.


Has it ever turned out that one of these words means something dirty or profane or something in another language?


Interesting question! Well no one has complained so far, but I should definitely run them all through Google Translate to see. I could see this happening quite easily.

The one issue I did have was buying a domain on Namecheap auctions only to find it had been used very aggressively by spammers before going to auction. It made me think of the recent top HN post about how you could push a suspect domain to someone within a registrar and then implicate them without their knowledge. The Namecheap auction system happily let me buy the domain, but then as soon as it was in my account it got suspended and I got various emails from their security team about how many blocklists it was on and how I'd have to submit extensive documentation to get it unsuspended etc. Thankfully the support was helpful and now I check domains more thoroughly before I buy them...


Yeah. At my last job we made a pivot table tool feature into our project and we named it Pito after Pito Salas, thinking we were so clever and finally came up with a slick little branding for a feature. But that's slang for penis in Spanish... name lasted for a couple of years before it was replaced.


so you're squatting domains, cool


I love the comment that someone dropped on the post. One could replace the first Ruby script by a one-liner: "cat /tmp/com.txt | awk '{ print substr($1, 1, length($1) -5) }' | uniq > domains.txt"


One could replace the first Ruby script by a Ruby one-liner too:

ruby -e "puts File.read('/tmp/com.txt').scan(/^[^.]+/).uniq"

Personally I almost never use any of the standard Unix tools like `awk` etc. since an equivalent Ruby script is almost always shorter and easier to write. (There are exceptions of course; and in really simple cases the standard tools will obviously still win.)

I think it's a shame that Ruby never really got popular as a general purpose scripting language, since it has that nice property that it's often as short as Perl while still being readable.


Classic useless use of cat?


I don't agree with the whole 'useless use of cat' meme: cat creates an output stream, which in turn allows you to build up the subsequent command bit by bit and allows you to cut and past chunks from useful building blocks you keep in a file.

The first command changes all the time so by using 'cat' those blocks remain reusable, everything will use the piped input that cat sends if there is no preceding program, rather than to have to insert < somefile in the middle of the first command.


Totally with you there. "Useless use of cat" is usually good practice, not bad.

It's clearer - the structure indicates right at the front what it is going to do, namely read a file and pass it through a pipeline. There is no need to read ahead to find out what the source material is.

It's safer - "cat" is a read-only operation, once you've written that command up-front there is no longer a risk of overwriting the original file with a typo in the rest of the pipeline.

It's simpler to construct and nicely orthogonal to the rest of the pipeline - you can write the "cat" and then season the rest to taste (as you suggested).

I will occasionally remove cat from a very heavily-used loop, but as a default style it's fine.


> It's clearer - the structure indicates right at the front what it is going to do, namely read a file and pass it through a pipeline. There is no need to read ahead to find out what the source material is.

I only found this out recently, but this works perfectly fine:

$ < /some/file awk ...

You're not wrong though, where cat improves readability there's no harm in using it.


"It's safer - "cat" is a read-only operation, once you've written that command up-front there is no longer a risk of overwriting the original file with a typo in the rest of the pipeline."

With zsh you can prevent such accidents by "setopt NO_CLOBBER"

The result is that if you "foo > bar" and "bar" exists, zsh will refuse to overwrite "bar" and give you an error: "zsh: file exists: bar"

This makes constructs such "foo < bar > baz" perfectly safe, because accidentally typing "foo > bar > baz" will error out when "bar" (or "baz") already exists.

(PS: if you want to force zsh to overwrite the file even when NO_CLOBBER is set you can "foo >| bar")


That doesn't help with sed -i and similar things.

Zsh stops redirection errors, it won't help even if cat is in the front.


"That doesn't help with sed -i and similar things."

Can you give an example? I don't know what you mean.

"Zsh stops redirection errors"

Which is what the post I was answering to was complaining about, wasn't it?

"it won't help even if cat is in the front"

Why not? "cat > foo" will error out if "foo" exists and NO_CLOBBER is set.


>> "That doesn't help with sed -i and similar things."

> Can you give an example? I don't know what you mean.

Sure. The first line below is dangerous no matter what zsh does to save you from yourself. The second line is safe no matter which shell you are using, and no matter what other commands are in the pipeline:

    sed $SEDOPTIONS "s/$SEARCHTERM/$REPLACEMENT/g" $FILENAME

    cat $FILENAME | sed $SEDOPTIONS "s/$SEARCHTERM/$REPLACEMENT/g"

>> "Zsh stops redirection errors"

> Which is what the post I was answering to was complaining about, wasn't it?

That's not how I interpreted "a typo in the rest of the pipeline." Sure, the typo could be a redirection. It could also accidentally set $SEDOPTIONS in the example above to include the '-i' flag.

>> "it won't help even if cat is in the front"

> Why not? "cat > foo" will error out if "foo" exists and NO_CLOBBER is set.

Yes, "cat > foo" will error out, but "cat $FILENAME | sed -i "s/a/b/g" $FILENAME" won't.


Yes, in-place editing with tools like sed is dangerous.

But, in your own example you have a useless use of cat:

  cat $FILENAME | sed $SEDOPTIONS "s/$SEARCHTERM/$REPLACEMENT/g"
could be replaced with:

  sed $SEDOPTIONS "s/$SEARCHTERM/$REPLACEMENT/g" < $FILENAME


Well, that's the whole point of the useless use of cat - in the non-cat example you gave, making a typo at the end of the command destroys my data.

With the useless use of cat, that is no longer possible even if there is a typo in the SEDOPTIONS.


> With zsh you can prevent such accidents by "setopt NO_CLOBBER"

Don't even need zsh for this; "set -C" will do the same in any POSIX shell. >| is also in POSIX. csh supports it as well.


It's possible to avoid `cat` and still keep the filename separate from the rest of the command by placing the redirection at the start of the command:

    < /tmp/com.txt awk ...
It might look a little odd, but it's portable.


I don't know about you, but I usually like seeing what's in the file before I spend time writing a awk command on it.

    cat myfile.txt                   # check the file because I'm not even sure that's the correct name
    cat myfile.txt | awk blablabla   # no I didn't forget awk syntax, I swear
I would be afraid of any person that after this, goes back and rewrites the beginning of the line to replace cat with a redirection.

Even with "ctrl-a alt-d < alt-f alt-f ctrl-d ctrl-d ctrl-e" that replaces cat with < and removes the pipe, which any emacs user can pull off in it's sleep


If you use zsh then just "<myfile.txt" should work too, which opens the file in $PAGER. Doesn't seem to work in bash though, with the default config anyway, but maybe it can be configured.

I don't care if people use "cat" or "<" and the whole "useless use of cat" is stupid >99% of the time, but I've gotten in to the habit of using <file as it's shorter to type ("<file cmd" vs. "cat file | cmd").


I usually use head or less for that.

Using cat for first look is usually looking for trouble if the file is huge or some binary file.


I'd agree with avoiding the < somefile redirection because it's sorta annoying to grok in one-liners. But in this case the file would just go after the awk command.


You can do

    <somefile awk ... | ...
The redirect doesn't have to appear "out of order" at the end of the command.

In zsh you can even do just `<somefile` to print it (equivalent to `cat somefile`, very useful for reading files into variables) although in bash that appears to do nothing.


In this particular case why is

    cat /tmp/com.txt | awk '{ print substr($1, 1, length($1) -5) }' | uniq > domains.txt
preferable to:

    awk '{ print substr($1, 1, length($1) -5) }' /tmp/com.txt | uniq > domains.txt


You don’t always need the shortest pipe.


my initial reading was that they were adding 'cat' as a prefix to everything...


This does not use a dictionary, spitting out everything rather than words which exist in said dictionary.


Alternatively, use instantdomainsearch.com (disclosure, I'm the CTO), which packages most of these things up in a fast web interface and also enables searching in a bunch of other TLDs.


Just wanted to say thank you for this service. Have been using this site for several years now. Perhaps the first place I visit whenever I need to research a domain name, have recommended it to tons of people already.

Do you have any write up on its tech stack?


It's running on GCP, the backend is written in Rust (with a smattering of legacy Go) and the frontend is written in React + Next. Any other questions?


I love that this project started with PHP and MySQL. https://web.archive.org/web/20170419012145/https://instantdo...


I just tried the site. In Firefox I searched for "led lighting" and this is the page I saw:

https://il.godaddy.com/en/domainsearch/find?checkAvail=1&tms...

However, I did notice the flash of something else loading and a redirect, so I hit the browser's back button and this is where it took me:

https://instantdomainsearch.com/?q=led+lighting

Something on that page is causing an immediate redirect to Godaddy.

I just tested on Google Chrome and had slightly different results. Instead of a redirect, the Godaddy page opened in a new tab (which was focused) yet the instantdomainsearch.com page remained in another tab.


I think that's what happens if you hit enter from within the search bar. We search as you type, so no need to hit enter in order to search. Not our finest bit of UI, will bring that back to the team to see if we can improve on it.


Why is it offering up .gb domains, when you can't register them?


Wow, blazing fast search with many options and very light/clean interface. Well done ;-)


Your site is really great.

Please consider creating an API with possibly a free tier. Right now I have to use godaddy api and it's so darn slow (plus I don't like using godaddy for many of the reasons for which they are so infamous).


I like your site, but are you marking prices up massively?

A url in the domain search took me to a purchase page for $99/yr. I see the same domain on Hover for $14.... Are you bundling a bunch of additional services or something?


I genuinely thought instantdomainsearch had been consumed by GoDaddy


Nope! In fact, we've started work on our own ICANN-accredited registrar under the Instant Domains brand.


These accounts are indeed free, but not without burdens. You need to give your address and agree to a bunch of terms in order to gain access at all, and then each time you request access to a specific piece of data you need to provide a justification and agree to another set of terms.

Interestingly, among those terms are:

> 1.3. not to use this Data, nor permit this Data to be used for any marketing purposes whatsoever.

I think the intent is to prevent the data being used for bulk mailing, but there's another section, 1.1 that specifically bans this. Choosing a domain name for a business is arguably marketing, so it seems that a close reading would disallow this.

I mean, of course, this is all unenforceable BS anyway. I'm surprised that someone hasn't gone ahead and taken this data and put it up on github or something; it all feels very theatrical.


> I'm surprised that someone hasn't gone ahead and taken this data and put it up on github or something; it all feels very theatrical.

It would be out of date the minute you post it.


Choosing a domain name is arguably one of the core use cases here; I don't think they were looking for extremely creative readings here. What they don't want people to do is take these results and slap them in an ad to drive business. But using these results to pick your own domain name, which you personally plan to use, is fine and good.


A tip I discovered - use hyphens, and suddenly very small nice domains become available. No one types domains anyway.

Also does anyone know how to get a shady domain parking service to give up on a domain they’ve been holding for decades? I’m actually happy to pay 500 but not thousands and it’s not even a domain that a company or commercial interest would want to purchase.


>No one types domains anyway.

I do, at least the first letters until the browser completes the rest.

And if no one types domains, why do you need a short domain name anyway?


Aesthetics.


> use hyphens, and suddenly very small nice domains become available.

Bad idea. The owner of the corresponding domain without hyphens might steal your visitors.


By accidentally forgetting a "-" is how I once ended up on a porn site in front of the entire company, since that's what the version without a "-" was.

It wasn't a big deal, but I was very young, and I had a very red head.


Oh man, I did something similar in class. In 4th grade (+/- a year). whitehouse.com (I don't know what it is now, but it was a porn site) instead of whitehouse.gov.


Also python dot com back in the day.


> No one types domains anyway.

Only as long as you don't plan to offer e-mail under that domain.


My company's email domain has a hyphen in it (xyz@company-corp.com). Works perfectly fine.


The very fact you want to buy it and are willing to pay $500+ means there is a commercial interest in it. That's like saying no company wants to own a house because they won't live in it. True, but they rent them out.


It’s my first name, and unfortunately there’s an underwear company of the sAme name, but I know for a fact they’re misers (I know, I get their emails sometime).


Any company of sufficient size will get negative emails. The only companies that don't simply aren't big enough


That begs the question do you need a .com anyway?


No, you just need something that has reasonable management and reputation and is familiar-enough for your potential users.

Some country codes are happy to have unrelated users, and some are not. .ninja was polluted by spammers so fast that many email servers just drop the entire TLD on sight. If most of your users speak something other than English, you might find any number of good words going unused.


I’ve done just that.

I own currency-calc.com, which I find even better than the non hypen version of the name name.

I think for generic name domains are fantastic, but maybe not for a brand.


By offering them a low amount. They'll counter with a ridiculously high amount. Make clear that there's no way you'll ever pay anything close to that amount and stop with negotiating if they don't come up with a reasonable price.

They might come back to you in a few months with a better offer. Or they might not, but it has worked for me two times.


You get a good and potentially expensive com domain for easy of use and not landing in spam folders.

I prefer *.io domains for non critical things.


The renewal fees for .io domains are a scamola. Last I checked it was $50+/year.


I was referring to the initial price of a good .com domain.

That will cost you a few thousand dollars if you are not lucky, which you are not if you need to use a hyphen

But a renewal price for 50$/year for a business doesn't matter.


Totally forgot about this but btw. We are on hn. .io is my preferred domain ending due to io ;)


Under what license is that file?

Could one make a webservice based on the data?

Edit to clarify: I'm envisioning a open source service that uses an in-browser sqlite database [1] so you don't have to worry about a predatory middle party reserving the domains you searched for.

[1] https://sql.js.org/#/


You can, but you're ~25 years too late.


Sure, I'm aware that there are lots of domain search sites.

I edited my comment to clarify what I envisioned.


You might struggle to use an in-browser service with a database that big? Not sure though


someone uploaded the list without duplicates here https://mega.nz/file/wNsRFIBC#jXOrEsIXUwespGbjKrh1fX4OIq436I... it's ~ 680Mb


I'd love to get my hands on the current version of the file, just to play with. Without having to wait days for approval. Is that something I could find somewhere?



Left out two very important steps:

a) which of those available names are already trademarked and in which industrial classification [1]. I am amazed at the number of LIVE trademarks that have no registered domain (or worse the registered domain is not held by the trademark registrant).

b) which of those available names has the lowest search engine competition and/or the highest organic search traffic [2]

Also, stripping off the top level domain (TLD) during the search process means one does not find good/great available domain names that may be available on alternative TLD's (that are also not trademarked etc).

[1] https://www.uspto.gov/trademarks/search

[2] https://ads.google.com/intl/en_au/home/tools/keyword-planner...


Not affiliated with Ryan Stout's bustaname domain search site [1], but I love using the word combiner and thesaurus features. Also has good video tutorials [2], including one for his tool "for making fake words that sound like they could be real" [3]

[1] http://www.bustaname.com/

[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmhSgMXwUQY

[3] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQYaUkNxT7A


Do .com domains still matter? Especially expensive "good" ones? Does a mortgage company really need to be known as "better.com"? Does a screen recorder really need to be known as "loom.com"? Yes these are short and expensive English words, but they are also unintuitive and honestly as a result unmemorable. There are times I see a company with englishword.com and it has nothing to do with their company and therefore I can't remember it. Lemonade.com? Oh yeah, insurance.


Domain name requirements depend on your customer base and the business that you're in (eg, enterprise software, crypto, or developer tools? completely different expectations). There are no general rules


Does choice of TLD affect SEO? Some articles claim it shouldn't matter, but I do wonder if less common TLDs get penalized.


Unfortunately not every domain that has no DNS record is available for purchase: some people configure no records, others are reserved by the registry (many short words for nTLDs). If something isn't in the DNS zone you can do a live DNS and WHOIS check to be more certain.

A while back I tied together this DNS zone + live false positive check into a website (for all TLDs and with price info):

https://domain.garden

AWS credits are still paying for this, so feel free to use it!


Great website, but it spammed by back button history. If you’re using pushState, I’d recommend changing it to replaceState.


Congrats! The interface is just super neat, how it gets updated when you hover (I imagine it caches the information about that specific domain for the next user).


Yep, the more people use the website the more accurate the database gets.


Or, pick two words that are not connected in any way. If you Google them as a phrase search you get nothing or close to nothing back: "word1 word2". Examples from 2 minutes on Godaddy:

martianpenguins.com

sallylabs.com

mountainmondays.com

bottlesound.com

Meaningless but all available. Turn those 2 minutes into 2 hours and you'll turn up a gem.


Now I understand why PostCSS comes from people at evilmartians.com.


You could respond from goodmartian.com. Available.


Making up plausible sounding words for domain names is fairly simple.

A few methods -

- Take a common surname suffix and add a new prefix to it - Make up something that sounds vaguely Japanese, Scandinavian, Spanish etc and you pretty much always find something available - Take a word that already exists and change (or add) one or two letters

Admittedly the results of the above can border on the ludicrous but the idea is to come up with enough names to eliminate those.


Do registrars still hike up the price/purchase domain names they notice people searching? I feel like I haven't seen any reports on that in awhile. If it's still happening this could be a nice way to avoid that.


This seems more for bulk searches than secrecy.


> If you’re on Mac, Linux, or BSD, you should have a dictionary of words at /usr/share/dict/words

Why do they come with a dictionary of words?


Password generators, spell checkers, password crackers, textual analysis, the 'look' program. Probably more than that!


Spell checker is an obvious use case. You can then add terms to the system dictionary and now they're valid systemwide in all apps that use the dictionary for spell checking!


There are some legit use cases:

    words is a standard file on Unix and Unix-like operating systems, and is simply a newline-delimited list of dictionary words. It is used, for instance, by spell-checking programs. The words file is usually stored in /usr/share/dict/words or /usr/dict/words.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Words_(Unix)


Are there other languages besides English and British?


    $ apt-cache search 'words for /usr/share/dict' | sed -e 's/^[^ ]* - //; s/ dictionary words.*//' | sort -u
    American English
    British English
    Bulgarian
    Canadian English
    Catalan
    Esperanto
    French
    German medical
    Irish (Gaeilge)
    Italian
    Manx Gaelic
    Polish
    Spanish
    Swedish
    Ukrainian


Not every word list package has "words for /usr/share/dict" in the description.

  $ grep-aptavail -wF Provides wordlist -s Package,Description | tbl-dctrl 
  +===================+=======================================================+
  | Package           | Description                                           |
  +-------------------+-------------------------------------------------------+
  | wbulgarian        | Bulgarian dictionary words for /usr/share/dict        |
  | wbrazilian        | Brazilian Portuguese wordlist                         |
  | wdanish           | The Comprehensive Danish Dictionary (DSDO) - wordlist |
  | wdutch            | list of Dutch words                                   |
  | wesperanto        | Esperanto dictionary words for /usr/share/dict        |
  | wogerman          | Traditional German wordlist                           |
  | wngerman          | New German orthography wordlist                       |
  | wswiss            | Swiss (German) orthography wordlist                   |
  | wpolish           | Polish dictionary words for /usr/share/dict           |
  | wfaroese          | Faroese dictionary / wordlist                         |
  | wgalician-minimos | Wordlist for Galician (minimos)                       |
  | wukrainian        | Ukrainian dictionary words for /usr/share/dict        |
  | wportuguese       | European Portuguese wordlist                          |
  | wgerman-medical   | German medical dictionary words for /usr/share/dict   |
  | miscfiles         | Dictionaries and other interesting files              |
  | wnorwegian        | Norwegian word list                                   |
  | wamerican         | American English dictionary words for /usr/share/dict |
  | wamerican-huge    | American English dictionary words for /usr/share/dict |
  | wamerican-insane  | American English dictionary words for /usr/share/dict |
  | wamerican-large   | American English dictionary words for /usr/share/dict |
  | wamerican-small   | American English dictionary words for /usr/share/dict |
  | wbritish          | British English dictionary words for /usr/share/dict  |
  | wbritish-huge     | British English dictionary words for /usr/share/dict  |
  | wbritish-insane   | British English dictionary words for /usr/share/dict  |
  | wbritish-large    | British English dictionary words for /usr/share/dict  |
  | wbritish-small    | British English dictionary words for /usr/share/dict  |
  | wcanadian         | Canadian English dictionary words for /usr/share/dict |
  | wcanadian-huge    | Canadian English dictionary words for /usr/share/dict |
  | wcanadian-insane  | Canadian English dictionary words for /usr/share/dict |
  | wcanadian-large   | Canadian English dictionary words for /usr/share/dict |
  | wcanadian-small   | Canadian English dictionary words for /usr/share/dict |
  | wcatalan          | Catalan dictionary words for /usr/share/dict          |
  | wswedish          | Swedish dictionary words for /usr/share/dict          |
  | wfrench           | French dictionary words for /usr/share/dict           |
  | witalian          | Italian dictionary words for /usr/share/dict/         |
  | wspanish          | Spanish dictionary words for /usr/share/dict          |
  +===================+=======================================================+


There is indeed. Usually you chose what lists to install as part of installation, otherwise it's just one package install away.


Not sure the origin but I have seen it used several times where random words are needed. So it certainly is handy.


What bad things would happen if the zone file was made available for everyone without any approval?


You can compare to get newly registered domain names so it's sometimes used for Spam to target new companies - I've not noticed that so much lately though.

I suppose you could identify recent NS changes to create a list of servers/hosting that might not have been locked down or secured yet.

But on the whole I can't personally think of anything too bad.


You can also do that with certificate transparency logs though.


didn't they already doing this?

i remember getting lot a spam from different persons/agencies to develop a website for my newly bought domain.


Whatever marketeers can come up with.


I believe you have to sign an agreement to not use the domain names list for DDoS attacks, specifically against WHOIS services. Not saying that this stops anyone, but that's what they probably had in mind.


I've found some good available .coms for some of my projects, the problem is they're all "premium" and cost thousands of dollars to register.


Domainy.io - lets you search (and monitor) for domain names that either become available or registered.

It also lets you quickly search for available domain names related to

- baby names - animal names - planet names etc etc via templates.

https://domainy.io


Is there a good API to check for domain name availability and expiration?


Engineers are terrible at picking product names. Some of the company/product names (picked by marketing folks) I disliked the most at first turned out to be the most "brandable" and successful.


Something similar that we created a while back is Mashword (https://mashword.com). It enables you to create word mashups of two words or find unique spellings of one word quickly. It will also do its best to determine domain name availability. We are currently in the process of improving the speed of the algorithm, so apologies if it takes a while to return.


Last I checked, this list only includes domains with a DNS server. It excludes plenty of registered .com domains that have no domain server configured.


I wish someone just distributed a recent .com zone file.


someone uploaded the list without duplicates here https://mega.nz/file/wNsRFIBC#jXOrEsIXUwespGbjKrh1fX4OIq436I...


Hopefully with a way to patch it from the last download so you don't have to download the whole thing over and over. I wouldn't mind paying $5 / month for a service like this - for helping me avoid the red tape.


maybe stupid question. but don't some registration services front run you?

also isn't the value of a domain related to how closely it matches search queries.


What about those edgy names with a spelling mistake?


Let's create a dictionary with all the edgy words.


I call dibs on dikshnr.io


My advice for those looking to name a company/product is to think of a single distinct word that is not in the dictionary.


Would the same process work for other tlds?


It does. Here is someone who lists all of the .horse domains just in case you would want such a thing [0]

https://every.horse/


Why wouldn't it?


Because different tlds are operated somewhat differently and afaict this seems to be a secondary service that isn’t fundamental to routing or other required operations of a registrar.

In this case it seems to work with “participating tlds”, whichever those are.


All DNS zones on CZDS have the same format, and AFAIK all nTLDs are required to use it.

But you're right for ccTLDs -- everyone uses their own format and most don't even allow you to get the zone file. There are some companies though that provide similar lists from crawling data (e.g. https://zonefiles.io/).


yes, but you need to request it


Most new companies now are on generic TLDs ( or .nets, .orgs, etc). Don't think .com matters as much anymore


Imo, .net domains are also just fine, and often just look/feel/sound better than the .com counterpart. They also kind of feel more personal. For my personal domain name I chose .net even though the .com was available because the .net just felt and sounded right, and more personal.


I find nameql.com great for this task of finding a good available dotcom but you have to have a seed word.


I've never seen that before, but it has a great way of letting you visualise how it is has come up with its suggestions.


One of the best things I like about Derek Sivers' blog is the URL is always short and very memorable!


He wrote about this recently: https://sive.rs/su


Q: Do we (still?) think that dictionary words make good choices for domain names?


A: No, random combination of characters (ideally with some numbers too) both are easier to remember, looks more secure and is easier to pronounce.


:)

I'm thinking of branding - think Google, Pepsi, Adidas, Nike, Starbucks

You'd really prefer to attempt build a brand around SearchEngine.tld or RunningShoe.tld ?


Booking.com would like to disagree.


and Hotels.com


which is ironically owned by ... Expedia Group


as well as

hotels.com trip.com


And Apple.


> Apple

Indeed, although the Beatles got there first with Apple Corps[0] way back in 1968, the resulting dispute with what became Apple Inc[1] took decades[2] and must have eaten up $deity only knows how much in legal fees.

Some might say that one actually backs up my suggestion that a made-up name is easier to build a brand around!

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Corps [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Inc. [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Corps_v_Apple_Computer


I created a domain name builder here: https://mixmatchdomains.com/ that shows related words together with fixed sets of words.


I created a startup name generator a long time ago. It is using the NameCheap API to look for domain availability: https://3sname.com/


Do domain names matter any more? What you need is a unique business name. Don't just name your app "bear" or something, because people are going to get search results for actual bears.


I appreciate the craftmanship, but domains should be ideated on offline, and only after years of thought, not crawled by machines to by hoarded by those with more wealth than others.

I own two domains right now -- one for this nym, one for my legal name. I actually put off getting the .org and .net for the former, because hackers used to have a sense of honor.

(But some might argue I was never a hacker, just a phone phreak[1] that was very late to the scene.)

[1] I'm from the generation that "Redbox" meant something... different https://phonelosers.com/redbox/tonedialer/


RIP Domains for the Rest of Us

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24538758


Everyone beat me with the one liners :) surprised someone had a file.open loop while cat and awk would work. More surprised to see Ruby used.


Sometimes performance considerations are irrelevant, because if your data is small enough, slow mainstream programming languages can blaze through the workload in an instant. This is one of those cases.


    $ cat com.txt | sed 's/^\(\S*\.com\)\.\s.*/\1/' | sort | uniq
A bit easier than a ruby script


  cat com.txt | cut -d' ' -f1 | sort | uniq
Would work as well since there's no whitespace in the first column


I stumbled across namy.ai on HN a while back and found it quite useful. No affiliation, it just worked well for me.


reminds me of how ninite came up with their name: https://ninite.tumblr.com/post/620277259/how-ninite-was-name...


Here is dirty little secret: Barely anyone types addresses manually these days.

Don't stress about it that much :)


Make .com domain $200 a year, then this won't be as much of a problem.


I just bought boxyfans.com...goig to sell a bunch of box fans. Kthx.


I just use dig or whois to see if the domain exists


This was good for a laugh, thanks. :)


using zomba* domains as an example is a real missed opportunity to feature zombo.com


Author please put domains.db file on torrent.


Should be possible to expand the gz file a bit at a time in the Ruby script? Would prefer that since I don't have the space available.


Why would I trust a service promoting finding "good" .com domains that uses .rs as its domain? Were they unable to find one for themselves?


This isn't a "service", it's someone's personal blog.


Is it so hard to open the link before posting a snarky comment? It takes five seconds and you'll avoid looking like a fool. Peak HN.


This is quintessential HN, rushing to comment before opening a blog post by someone called Sivers




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