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War escalation being reversed?

Sounds like we're on track to trade Ukraine for an Israeli-fronted attack on Iran.




Where have you heard the Trump admin wants Israel to attack Iran? I haven't seen that news.

And yes, ending the Russian-Ukrainian war is in fact de-escalation, even if giving Russia what they want is the outcome.



Not letting Iran get nukes sounds like a great way to avoid further escalation in the region.


I love it when people justify escalation for the purposes of deescalation.

I spent too much time in sandy areas with a rifle.


None of what I read sounded like escalation. The US' stance has long been that they don't want Iran to have access to nukes.


Ok!


> And yes, ending the Russian-Ukrainian war is in fact de-escalation, even if giving Russia what they want is the outcome.

That’s what they said about the Sudentenland, too.


Indeed, sometimes de-escalation is followed by further escalation. By your implied metric, every ceasefire that wasn't permanent was a failure.

Sudentenland is the exception that makes the rule. Throughout history, most peace agreements have not been immediately violated by the "winning" side.


> most peace agreements have not been immediately violated by the "winning" side.

Most peace agreements are signed when the war is over and one side has given up. Most peace agreements aren’t attempts at appeasement.


And this war won't end either, if neither side gives in.


That’s the thing about war—if it goes on long enough, it eventually ends, because one side is unable to continue it. And if it’s the aggressor, then that stops them from continuing their aggression.


> And yes, ending the Russian-Ukrainian war is in fact de-escalation, even if giving Russia what they want is the outcome.

It's siding with the aggressor, and makes the soil more fertile for more such aggression.

So if I try to steal your baby, and you catch me and we fight, and it gets really loud and people are inconvenienced and all that, so someone steps in and says "stop fighting, both go on your way", and I leave with your baby, that's de-escalation? Not even in your dreams. You can only stoop to this from the ivory tower of not being affected either way, or thinking you won't be. You can only call this de-escalation when you are not the victim. You wouldn't do it otherwise, ever.




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