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Everything you said + progressing hypermetropia for the last 25 years. When mobile screens got half decent sizes, I already hated the medium.

When people said that those text pages, around 2000, what was the name? WAP? were going to get everybody online, I was very skeptical. But of course, that was pre-iPhone.



I remember WAP, and had an early-phase smartphone with limited Web support (Palm Treo/Centro) which ... remains one of the better phones that I've had (hard keyboard among other features). You wouldn't want to read much on that, but as a quick on-the-go reference, particularly when travelling, it was handy.

One of my daily drivers is a large (13.3") e-ink tablet. Reading on that is actually a pleasure, though it's led me to another conclusion: scrolling sucks.

I much prefer reading paginated media, and if at all possible, fixed-layout media (e.g., PDFs rather than ePub) both because the same material stays in the same place on the same page regardless of other settings (I have a strongly spatial memory), and because the layout is usually just simply much better than what fluid-layouts achieve.

What really drives me nuts though is having to scroll on webpages. It's imprecise, half the time I'm clicking on something I'd not intended to, and it's much harder and less pleasing to read.

But size and print clarity alone make this a huge improvement over smartphone displays.

Sorry to hear about the eyesight issues.


The eyesight I wouldn't complain at all. Until recently I didn't need glasses, except for reading. Hypermetropia is also called far-sightness for a reason. Worst period is when I only used glasses for the screen. Someone would come to interrupt and talk, I took the glasses off, then we were commenting on the screen contents, I put it on again, then back to talk and glasses off...

At home I use a 27'' screen with the regular glasses. I fear that if for a next job at some office they don't provide a similar one, the situation will repeat, now with regular glasses vs reading glasses :-m

I much prefer reading paginated media, and if at all possible, fixed-layout media (e.g., PDFs rather than ePub)

ePub didn't grow on me and I couldn't put my finger on why, I guess that's the reason.

About WAP phones, this was the one the company provided:

https://www.reddit.com/r/vintagemobilephones/comments/gefgsm...

Not bad, but not much I could do with it and they took away when I resigned.


Gradient lenses may be in your future...

The problem of focusing at multiple distances is ... a challenge.


IDK, those are a different version of the annoyance. Instead of changing glasses, you change the angle.


Pick your poison.


I find that it heavily depends what kind of scrolling happens.

I am fine with "instantly jump by constant amount per mousewheel click"

Smooth scrolling ? Much worse

Smooth scrolling custom-implemented in JS, with ramp-in ramp-down speed? Close the webpage


On desktop, I have the option of scrolling via spacebar or page-up/down keys.

This is reasonably determinative (the scroll distance is the same in each case), convenient (it's easy to hit those keys), and not confusable with other intent actions. That last point is key as very often when I'm attempting a scroll action on a touchscreen interface I instead commit a click action (usually navigating off-page). Which is maddening.

On touchscreens, not only can I not scroll by a prescribed amount, not only is input through an onscreen keyboard completely crippled, but there's an ever-present drag/click ambiguity which on Android at least (and from my limited experience with iPhones suggests there too) is everpresent.

Add in e-ink, and there are the additional levels that refresh rates drop low enough that following scrolling is tedious, and the display technology makes the many, many paints of a long scroll expensive in terms of battery life. Web browsing drains battery at 10x the rate of my e-book reader.

Einkbro at least mitigates some of that. Going back to Firefox or Onyx's Chrome-based browser is excruciating.


Check out eInkBro Browser if you haven't already. It saved my sanity when I started using my eInk tablet.


Oh, I'm a huge fan and can't live without it.

I've reported issues / feature requests to Daniel multiple times, most of those have been addressed.

The "save to ePub" feature is among my absolute favourites. It's simply genius:

<https://toot.cat/@dredmorbius/107958709435468728>




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