One doesn’t punish a member of the Einsatzgruppen for identifying as Aryan, one punishes them for being a member of the Einsatzgruppen.
Incidentally — though perhaps not all that surprisingly — what a member of the Einsatzgruppen would sneer and spit as just punishment arrived would look pretty much like what you’ve written in air quotes there.
> One doesn’t punish a member of the Einsatzgruppen for identifying as Aryan, one punishes them for being a member of the Einsatzgruppen.
Right... but no white people today actually are a member of the Einsatzgruppen (appart from a few dozen LARPers), so I really don't get why you're so desperate to punish white people for things that have nothing to do with them.
> what a member of the Einsatzgruppen would sneer and spit as just punishment arrived would look pretty much like what you’ve written in air quotes there.
Yes. I'm paraphrasing what you're saying. It's very abusive isn't it?
> so I really don't get why you're so desperate to punish white people for things that have nothing to do with them.
You’ve been imagining I have an interest in punishment the entire time… literally no one is being punished by acknowledging that the sins of the fathers have knock one effects today.
> Yes. I'm paraphrasing what you're saying. It's very abusive isn't it?
Not abusive, though also not paraphrasing… refreshing, though, that you’ve admitted that your weak attempt at refutation used the same twisted logic the Einsatzgruppen would use. Or, I suppose, one of those few dozen LARPers that today make up the intellectual base of the MAGA crowd.
> You’ve been imagining I have an interest in punishment the entire time…
You don't have in interest in punishing the MAGA crowd? You're claiming that they are supporters of the SS.
Sorry I don't believe you - if somebody - be it the MAGA crowd, or "white people" in general were as reprehensible as you claim to believe, then punishment would be the only suitable response.
Be honest. You wish these people ill, and if they receive racially discrimitary treatment - then so be it.
Ok... but don't then turn around and claim to oppose racism, because you clearly don't.
"There are no bad tactics, only bad targets" -- Moviebob
> You don't have in interest in punishing the MAGA crowd? You're claiming that they are supporters of the SS.
Ahh, more mischaracterization… no, I have no interest in punishing them, as they’ve not actually been members of die Einsatzgruppen, or a modern equivalent that acted on their racist “ideology”. Now, do they disgust me? Yes… because they’re exactly the kind of people that, given the right circumstances and their predilection for authoritarianism and populist rhetorical xenophobia, would both form and join and materially support an American version of the Schutzstaffel, without hesitation, and THEN I would both desire and act to punish them.
Would I support someone attacking and killing them because they are (primarily) white? No… nor because they are (primarily) afflicted by a debilitating mental illness… I’d oppose (and punish) anyone that attacked and killed them along those lines.
The fact that no one is doing so, coupled with the fact that the ideas that they admire and support routinely inspire people who DO go out and commit mass murders —- and have historically inspired practically speaking all genocides — leaves me feeling that I will likely never need to punish anyone for attacking them on actual “reverse” racism-inspired grounds, while I am quite certain we’ll need to deal with hundreds of “forward” racism-inspired murders by the end of the year.
You look for people that seem most guilty to you. Ironically that is pretty close to people that judge people on their skin color.
People that fight racism do so for everyone that shows prejudice on the basis of ethnicity. A simple test that many fail.
You can try to rationalize it with power dynamics, but even if you do, the argument will fall short. Racism by the current powers is far more policed for certain ethnicities.
