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I saw contrarian opinions, but I believe Avengers: End Game pretty much delivered the insane hype cultivated for 10 years.



I dunno. It was just hours and hours of violence. How long can you watch a bunch of people flying around and punching each other? I found it very boring.


Not for me. Too much quantum time travel hand-waving just magically solving problems.


Actually, I thought this was the clever part. If you pay attention, they created a lot of other problems as a side effect.

It wraps up all the existing plots, and introduces new ones. There's a lot of hints on what went wrong with time travel, and if you read up on Marvel lore, there are plenty of villains who are able to maneuver time travel better than the heroes.


And it created a wonderful narrative device to revisit scenes and references from several other filmes. Marvel movies never positioned themselves to be hard scifi.


Imagine being upset about quantum time travel when the main characters are a Norse God of Thunder, a man that got bitten by a radioactive spider, a lab created super soldier and the main villain is some demi god alien with reality warping powers derived from some rocks in a gold glove...


Scifi is much more satisfying when it sets up a fantastical world/premises and then keeps an internal consistency as the narrative develops. It’s far less satisfying to force the use of fantastical elements as a crutch for a weak narrative.


Exactly. Introducing new things out of nowhere that just happen to be exactly what the characters need right then is poor writing IMHO. It breaks my suspension of disbelief, pulls me out of the story, and makes it much harder to enjoy.


But Marvel is a comic book universe not sci-fi.


Does that distinction change the point that I’m making?


This


Agreed

Also I was so looking forward to how they were gonna manage to track down antman

Then it’s a rat ex machina


Sure, but in the end of the day it’s a super hero movie. A certain degree of hand-waving is allowed.


I second this. With so many movies in the epic, they'll still be fun to watch 30 years from now.

Vision really disappointed in the penultimate. I think his character was hyped up a lot in Age of Ultron. Became disappointing seeing him go so easily.

Older Thanos was a really well-thought and played villain. One which many people got to identify with (based on his goals in the movie). Captain America delivered when he proved worthy. I think Captain Marvel was an arrogant addition that needed to fill in pieces to the story, like how Stark and Nebula get saved.

It's going to be a classic series in the decades to come. Marvel delivered.


> Vision really disappointed in the penultimate. I think his character was hyped up a lot in Age of Ultron. Became disappointing seeing him go so easily.

To be fair most overpowered characters where nerfed in Endgame. eg. Fat Thor, Dr. Strange aside of the battle containing a flood, Captain Marvel arriving last minute and being knocked out immediately, Hulk as Prof. Hulk. The stakes can't be that high if all superheroes are at their full performance.


I missed a Hulk as strong as in the comics. I heard that they audience tested Hulk busting out of the Hulk-buster armor that Bruce Banner was using, but it didn’t test well.


Odd, because that sounds extremely epic.


People went absolutely bananas in the theater during the final battle.


The final battle was great. One small thing that I wish they did better, was not to butcher the African language that they used. Whenever they spoke, many of us cringed. Small thing though, Chadwick still won our hearts.


Perhaps dumb of me but I never realized they were using an actual language. I presumed it was a made up language based on how certain African languages can sound.


It was mostly Xhosa. The actor who played T'Chaka speaks it and coached the cast during Black Panther and Civil War. Guess he wasn't around for the last two.


It was good but too much deux ex machina with Captain Marvel.




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