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>If you don't like how the law works, well, don't live in the EU ? You can find a lot of countries where this is isn't a consideration, and that may suit you better. Otherwise, well, you've been pwned by democracy. Tough luck !

Democracy? The commission doesn't get elected. The commission is the one to create the laws. Furthermore, most of the voting in the Parliament is done by people not even in my own country. This means that they don't have to care about what I want at all, as my vote has zero effect on them. And if the EU keeps going the way it is then I'd definitely like to get out, because the only thing the EU does is legislate while the bloc's economy has been doing poorly.



Eu lawmaking in a nutshell:

Commission (leaders of which are selected by your government that you presumably voted for) makes a draft.

Commission consults widely (usually online consultation) and all national ministries comment.

Commission redrafts and sends to parliament and council.

In the council your government has (most of the time) veto power.

In the parliament your and other countries delegates vote on it.

Then parliament (people's representatives) and council (national government representatives) sit together, find the middle ground of a final draft.

Parliament and council then each do a final vote.

Depending on the exact type of legal document it either enters into force right away or your national administration, parliament and government create their own national version of it conform to the EU document and make that a national law.

That's a pretty heavy process but it's just wrong to say that the voters don't have influence. National governments and delegates both can say no.

Now is the parliament representative just because people are not from just one country? Is your national parliament representative even if there are people from different regions/cities/...? Is your major democratically elected just because that other suburb also got to vote? That's just an absurd position.


The commission is indirectly elected. Your democratically elected leaders propose the commission, i.e. the Council of the European Union [0]. I guess in US terms it could be thought of as more similar to the senate?

After being proposed they are then democratically confirmed by the parliament which you directly elect.

Which part of this is not democratic?

[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_the_European_Union


Well, that would be a completely different and interesting discussion, but I don't think it's really relevant to the point I'm trying to make ^^




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