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You realize the cabin audio is background audio in that video -- edited to be much lower volume than the foreground narrator, right?

Like, how about I share a video of a hellcat 0-60 but turn down the audio to 1% and call it quiet?


99% agreed.

Reserving 1% because I'd strike "lesser technical" from your final sentence. The misleading quote is simply not correct. It is misleading because it's not true. It says Confluence hosted in the cloud is not vulnerable. False statement that can mislead anyone regardless of how technical they are.


its' misleading and it gives off the notion that the cloud is more secure so you should migrate your instance to our managed "Cloud" version.


But in this case it's literally the cloud product that is more secure.


Let's say 99.5%, because Atlassian hosted offering is called "Atlassian Cloud"


Good compromise.


> regardless of how technical they are

They said "lesser technical people", not "less-technical people". A more technical person might not be able to read between the lines, but a better technical person should.


Anecdotally, yes, I eat less meat now for environmental reasons, and I think you're right to generalize.

Especially in progressive cities and circles, meat and oil are in the same class. It's hip to eat veg, socially conscious.


  But if you dig on vegan food  
  Well come over to my work  
  I’ll have them cook you something 
  that you’ll really love
"Bohemian Like You", Dandy Warhols (2000)

It's always been trendy in certain circles, I think the expansion now is partly environmentalism and partly "mainstreaming of hipsterness".


In Seattle I know many people who live on flat routes and don't bike. I don't think the hills are the main deterrent. Anecdotally, it sounds like fear factor (especially riding near cars) and sweat (even if office has a shower) are the big ones.


There's a lot of social pressure for women to wear makeup which is especially hard to pull off if you bike to work. A woman with tasteful makeup is perceived as more professional, even if it's just subconsciously. I'm sure there are men here who will object to that statement, but 9 times out of 10, when a guy thinks a woman is wearing "no makeup," she's actually wearing primer, foundation, concealer, mascara, eyebrow pencil, lipstick, and blush and just hasn't done anything too obvious.

Because of this illusion, women don't want to be seen bare-faced by their coworkers (because society's expectation of what a woman looks like without makeup is actually a woman wearing a lot of makeup so the real no-makeup look is shocking). Now a woman who wants to bike to work has to decide if she'll hope her makeup stays looking good after a bike ride, do her makeup twice, or go without makeup for the bike ride (and risk being seen without makeup going into the office). This doesn't bother all women, but it's no wonder that a lot of us choose not to go through this minefield of issues.


Those are the two biggest obstacles for me personally, as well. I live in Providence and it is VERY unfriendly to bikes. I routinely get honked at for going slowly (10-15 relative to what cars want, 30ish). Cars don't look out for me, there are often "bike lanes" that are really just painted pictures of bikes (wow, such safety), and there are hardly ANY other bikers. Then, I get to work and it's just a run of the mill government office, no shower, no bike room, no bike racks...


Yeah sure, but let me tell you biking from Ballard to Montlake on the Burke Gilman was awesome and easy. Now I live on Capitol Hill (Seattle) and don’t bike cause the climb is a killer.


You can bike part way and put your bike on the front of a bus to go up a big hill. You can rent ebikes for pennies to go up the hill, you can get your own ebike for 500 bucks.

All of these things apply to me too :-) I live by a big freaking hill, 300' up and whenever I ride I have to take a shower. If I had a flatter hill I'd ride my bike the 4 miles to the p&r a lot. Instead I drive my stupid car.


Ebike rentals aren't pennies. My last ride was $4 for about a mile. I was surprised.


I always bike to the UD or the ID (depending on what side of the city I'm on) then grab the light rail to Broadway station.


Buy an e-bike: they’re perfect for daily commuting without that one hill being a disincentive.


Yeah Burke Gilman should get even better whenever the missing link is completed.


Bristol, England is notoriously hilly, but 7% of all peak-time journeys are made by bicycle.

http://bristolbybike.blogspot.com/2009/11/bastard-hills-of-n...

https://bristolcycling.org.uk/cycling-trends-in-bristol/


I’m somewhat of a risk taker. I first rode a commuter bike in DC, a slow traffic biker-friendly city. I did so for about two years. Many years before that (as a teen) I did BMX and half pipes. I’m competent on a bike.

Much of the time I spent on the bike commuting was fucking terrifying.

I would guess commuting on a bike around cars is prohibitively scary for many folks.


Don’t forget bike parking. I don’t trust locking up my bike on the street in Seattle; I’ve known people who’ve had bikes stolen out of “secured” parking rooms. And there aren’t too many places to chain a bike either.


Seattle has crap for actual bike infrastructure. We dropped some lines at random on a map with no connections, and especially no east-west routes. It's getting better but man if the Burke is still basically the only east-west MUP in the city.

Here's the graph: http://seattlecitygis.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/inde...

Note that only the red/orangey color (MUPs) and bold blue lines (protected cycle lanes) count; the rest are just paint on roads.

Neighborhood greenway = tons of speed bumps, nominally cars should depart after a block or two; otherwise ordinary residential road.

Sharrow = just a road.

Non-protected Bike lane = debris-filled shoulder, or worse, parked car door zone.


There is also the time factor... I have to get my kids to school/daycare in the morning and then pick them up before 5:30 when daycare closes... I already feel squeezed by these hours at work, and having to add time to my commute is a non-starter.


> fear factor (especially riding near cars)

a credible one at that.


Yeah. I used to commute by bike in Seattle but stopped after hamburgerizing my face trying to dodge a car coming out of a garage on the hill between 2nd and 3rd. I have plenty of coworkers with similar stories of accidents or near-misses that spooked them out of bike commuting.

I still enjoy cycling in the area in general, but downtown during rush hour is a meat grinder.


Hills might not be the only or even the main deterrent but they are definitely a deterrent in SF. In college we'd joke that someone should install a chairlift, and while I'm not sure that's the solution, I still think something similar would reduce the reliance on Ubers, Lyfts, etc.


because bicycles are fair weather solutions to transit and even then if the distance is within the rider's ability which far too many over estimate. then throw in convenience and security.

still this solution of theirs isn't really worth the money being sunk into it, there is no reason to not work along side ride sharing services to get people between their destinations and light rail or bus stops


Ctrl+F "exploit", appears 24 times in this 13-paragraph article.

> "Defining exploitation as being overcharged relative to the market value of a property"

The ratio they've based their narrative on is called GRM (gross rent multiplier): https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gross_Rent_Multiplier

GRM is one of many factors when analyzing investment options. Other important factors include appreciation and expenses (maintenance, property management, etc). Cap rates are a better indicator than GRM (because they include expenses) but still not comparable across asset classes due to appreciation (HCOL++) and unaccounted overhead (LCOL--).

I own both (LCOL oil region, HCOL tech region). If the numbers were equal anyone would only choose the tech region, because of urbanization and future expectations for those industries. It's the same reason P/E ratios on tech stocks are so much higher than on oil stocks. So cap rates are higher on my LCOL oil region properties (approx 6, vs 4 in the tech region). But that's just market forces. If cap rates were equal why would anybody buy in the oil region? Even if you exclude the market's predictions for the future (oil vs tech), the LCOL has additional overhead (more properties at equal value).

Reducing the conversation to cap rates and ESPECIALLY reducing the conversation to GRM - relabeling GRM to "exploitation ratio" - shows these prestigious authors (MIT & Princeton) aren't interested in answering any real questions. They're too smart to believe GRM indicates exploitation. They therefore must have an agenda.

The most interesting question raised is who funded their study, else why are they spending their time forging this narrative?


Of course they have an agenda, but I think it's much less nefarious than some think -- it's that they think housing insecurity is a major problem in the United States with knock-on effects in education, health, and household wellbeing. Of course it is a complex issue on how to address this — what mixture of regulation and free market solutions best serves people -- and I think the authors land in a position that is more in favor of regulation.

I strongly recommend Desmond's earlier book "Evicted" — houses, while assets for some, are filled with extremely real people with extremely real challenges as a result of income inequality (and, moreso, differences in household wealth). OP is totally correct in noting the importance of returns in drawing investment; OP is reminded that markets forces can yield exploitative conditions (as simple evidence, consider colonialism).


Attributing the situations in Evicted to inequality or differences in household wealth is pretty off base. It's Milwaukee, not San Francisco. Competition from wealthier households has minimal to zero weight as a factor in the price of low-end housing.

Rather, a bunch of people have incomes that are below or precariously close to the carrying and maintenance costs on the cheapest possible shelter. You can tell that this is a poverty problem and not an inequality problem because the situation is worse, not better, if everyone falls down to that level. (Example: we might be legitimately better off in a world where no one is a billionaire, because billionaires have access to outsized political power that can harm other people. Money in politics is an inequality problem. I don't think you can say we're better off in a world where no one can securely afford good housing).

And if we look at places in the world that deal more successfully with such low economic productivity, one of things you'll find is a regulatory bar for "minimum viable shelter" that's more in line with what people living there can afford.


so let me get this straight: We are saying that there are some people who are doing okay in one place, and in another place, they have poverty.

And this is not inequality?

Honestly though, its been far more clear to me living and working in a country with much better income inequality how much the state of some places having rampant poverty and other places in the same country having massive profits. It seems like a cliché to say, but how is it that in the country with the highest average salary in the world there is so much poverty?

It's because there is a much sharper distribution: the wealthy few make far far more in america than they ever do in europe, but everybody else is better off.

The sharpness of this curve is what indecates inequality to me. I'm sure there are all sorts of fancy ways economists have quantified this, along with economic mobility (also shockingly low in the supposed land where anyone can make it)


Sure, there is inequality. You can remove it by destroying all housing wealth and evicting every American every month. But that makes the situation worse, not better. So the inequality is not the interesting or problematic aspect here.


“Of course it is a complex issue on how to address this — what mixture of regulation and free market solutions best serves people -- and I think the authors land in a position that is more in favor of regulation.”

The interventions we already have are largely responsible for the problem in the first place. Governments intervene massively to increase the cost of housing as a backdoor give-away to incumbent homeowners.

Doubling down on intervention will not work because there are diametrically opposed requirements—-politicians want high and monotonically increasing home prices but low and stable rents.


Thank you for addressing my concern with the claim. My immediate thought on the article title is that low income properties come with a host of extra work and risks that "higher class" areas do not have, and the higher margin on paper is the market's reflection of this fact.

I am an aspiring real estate investor and of course have considered low income properties. The forums online are chock full of the same question and the resounding response is "Yes, on paper you can make more money, if $bad_thing doesn't happen -- e.g. $bad_thing { a, b, c, d, e ... z } happened to me or someone I know and they actually lost money over 5yr. Good luck!"


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