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> I have read the agreement

You must not have read it very carefully. On page 3 it says:

"Iran reaffirms that under no circumstances will Iran ever seek, develop or acquire any nuclear weapons."




Indeed. Here's a copy of the deal:

http://eeas.europa.eu/statements-eeas/docs/iran_agreement/ir...

Plus the entire agreement talks extensively about scaling back their enrichment, areas of research, and international monitoring.

Here's a nice easy to consume summary:

http://www.bustle.com/articles/97038-what-does-the-iran-deal...

The OP is either being untruthful about having read the agreement, or has some type of agenda and is intending to mislead. Hard to argue that they're making claims in good faith giving out inconsistent their claims are with facts.


You don't use centrifuges for anything but refining weapons-grade nuclear fuel. The fact that they have them -- and are allowed to keep them -- flies in the face of any paperwork claiming that it wants to dismantle a nuclear weapons development programme.

I personally have friends living in Iran who tell me that the people of that nation widely believe their government is developing nuclear weapons, and are terrified that this deal will allow them to continue, and I can't say I blame them one bit.

This deal is not going to stop the mullahs from making the bomb. Mark my words.


> You don't use centrifuges for anything but refining weapons-grade nuclear fuel

Not true. Centrifuges are used to make reactor fuel too.

> allowed to keep them

They are being phased out over the next ten years. Under close IAEA scrutiny.

> This deal is not going to stop the mullahs from making the bomb. Mark my words.

You know, it's not just Obama and Kerry who signed off on this, it's China, France, Russia, the UK, and Germany too. The only ones who don't like this deal are the Republicans, Benjamin Netanyahu, and you. And the Republicans reflexively oppose anything Barack Obama supports, so their opinion can pretty much be discounted.

Just out of curiosity, though, what exactly do you suggest we do?


Draft up a document that doesn't let Iran keep centrifuges and missiles and schedule their own inspector visits at their leisure? "They are being phased out" but the thing you're not mentioning is that they're only phasing out a portion of those. If Iran abides by the entire agreement, they will come out the other end with working centrifuges (and therefore the ability to enrich uranium to weapons-grade).

Elsewhere in your response, ad hominem, appeal to authority, appeal to popularity. Come on.


Right. No nation state in the history of mankind has ever lied. Inconceivable.


But that's not the claim that you made. The claim that you made was:

"It basically green-lights Iran's continuing atomic weapons program. I have read the agreement, and there is nothing in there that actually will impede Iran's progress towards creating nuclear weapons."

And that is simply flat-out false. The document does not "green-light" Iran's atomic weapons program, and there is actually quite a lot in there that will impede their progress if they try to cheat.


They let them keep their centrifuges. They have everything they need to create nuclear weapons, and all of those things (including being able to dictate/schedule their own nuke inspector visits) are right there in the document. Whatever the "restrictions" spelled out in there, and whatever the "punishments", this document gives (or lets keep) everything Iran needs to continue developing nuclear weapons. That is what I am saying.




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