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"I think we understand each other now."

Please explain to me how the US military isn't breaking their loyalty to their soldiers when more people die of suicide than was killed in action, when soldiers requesting psychological assistance (which is hard to do by itself) after carrying the bloody children left behind by a gunship just to hear that they should "suck it up" or when the soldiers with blisters from chemical weapons aren't believed their damages are real in a war that was supposedly about finding those kinds o weapons.

As long as the miliary's loyalty doesn't also encompass those scenarios, how is it not a bastardisation of the word?




> No, I don't understand you since you have no arguments.

Seems pretty clear to me:

1. You say that Captain Kudo's loyalty to his Marines is "mostly a cliché"

2. I disagree and provide personal examples (which isn't really necessary, because examples of loyalty among soldiers are pretty well known)

3. You say that I don't know what loyalty really is

> As long as the miliary's loyalty doesn't also encompass those scenarios, how is it not a bastardisation of the word?

Your definition of loyalty seems to require the meeting of impossible goals. The military would not be able to meet its obligations and also fully protect all soldiers. PTSD is an unavoidable reality that comes with the job, and the military has really made massive improvements in handling it in the last decade. There are plenty of examples that demonstrate failures, but that is true of every system that has ever existed.

Maybe you should provide an example of loyalty that meets your lofty definition of unfaltering perfection.

> Or maybe I should understand you by your lack of arguments?

Or the more obvious answer: We aren't going to come to agreement on anything because we can't agree on a definition for "loyalty".




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