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"Depleting the ozone layer isn't enough."

Unfortunately mixing is good enough that the increased UV will sterilize everything that does photosynthesis for quite awhile, including in the oceans. So yeah its enough.

One interesting part little discussed is that in typical physics fashion, there's many orders of magnitude from weakest (barely detectable, about once a day) to kills everything on the surface not just ozone disruption (Could happen?) and as a rough guess maybe a tenth the strength happens ten times as often.

So the disaster oriented contingent wonders about wiping out all non-ocean vent life on a planet, but its more likely that as a species we'll have way more "fun" with glancing blows or near misses leading to reduced crop yields.

Sometimes I wonder about unexplained civilization collapses and GRBs. All you need to is screw up crop yields to 99% of minimum and the mayans or whatever are all done. Don't need to kill everything green or kill everything living from radiation burns, just a glancing blow bad enough to tip an already tottering civilization over... Maybe there's enough spare capacity in europe / asia that nobody noticed or recorded a 1% hit but it was enough to do the Mayans in.



> So yeah its enough.

I realize that was a very imprecise statement on my part. Not enough to sterilize a planet is what I meant. It certainly is enough to cause a dent, even a huge dent, in the ecosystem.

> Sometimes I wonder about unexplained civilization collapses and GRBs

You wouldn't be the first, I think it's certainly probable these events did play a role in both prehistoric population changes as well as civilization collapses.


A lot of these civilization cataclysms are explainable as extended droughts or desertification processes though.




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