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The fact that a given closed tech is winning does in fact support my argument: open wins, eventually. And the fact that protocols and standards prevail is precisely because they need to be open to become protocols and standards.



>The fact that a given closed tech is winning does in fact support my argument: open wins, eventually.

Huh? I fail to see the logic behind this.

>And the fact that protocols and standards prevail is precisely because they need to be open to become protocols and standards.

Well, yes, but that doesn't say much about other levels of the stack, like applications. And besides, we've had lots of succesful proprietary but de-facto standards too, from the .doc format to .mp3 (patent encumpered), to GIF and h264.


The logic is this: you are taking a picture while I see the whole movie. So, Apple is winning 'now', so is Whatsapp, but they may lose it eventuallly b/c they are closed models.


But this is a faith-based attitude; the reasoning and evidence you presented could just as easily be used to support a "closed eventually wins" argument, where any open platform that's currently winning is only doing it temporarily until a closed platform dominates.


Even if so, some closed product winning now (in this "frame of the movie") is not evidence that open will eventually win, as you said above.

Besides, how "I'm talking a picture while you see the whole movie"?

The case of browsers I mentioned, for example, spans 2 decades+ that closed browsers dominate. Or take desktop operating systems: closed ones are winning for 5+ decades.

That's a whole lot of pictures. I don't think there's a historical based argument you made for how the movie ends, besides your faith in a particular outcome.


They could fail for hundreds of different reasons, not all necessarily related to being open or closed.




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