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People think I love threads like this because I'm pro-surveillance (no) but really it's just that I like having a reason to look stuff like this up.

http://www.law.georgetown.edu/academics/academic-programs/le...

Search: "notwithstanding".

We can probably find a bunch of examples in real statutes to get a sense of exactly how subtle the override could be.

I don't think Wyden's bill is likely to be helpful in detecting new authority to demand backdoors. We'll have to be exactly as vigilant after it passes.



Sure, but "notwithstanding" is exactly the type of language that should raise eyebrows. It's like seeing a goto in code. Sure it can be used to obscure things, and there are plenty of great examples of this, but it's also a big sign that saying "pay attention to me".


It's pretty common. The word "notwithstanding" occurs twice in the ECPA, for instance. It occurs too many times to count in the ACA.




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