The hole court case was about bundling, nowdays everybody does that. Can you imagen any operating system beeing sold without preinstalled browser?
Also how would people go about downloading the other browser if there was not internet explorer?
When apple had much of the smartphone market, there was not antitrust against them, but there was a browser on that phone. Also if you cant put any software on a computer you sell, then the logical conclusion is that we should only be allowed to sell pre installed kernals, everything else would be abusing monopoly position (assuming there is a high market share in the OS). Microsoft probebly had 99% market share in defragmentation tools back then as well.
The faulty assumition is that the product is the operating system, in reality the product is more then just the operating system its a hole bundle of diffrent software.
> The hole[sic] court case was about bundling, nowdays[sic] everybody does that. Can you imagen[sic] any operating system beeing[sic] sold without preinstalled browser?
The case was in the days when browsers were much less interoperable. There was a real concern that bundling IE would make it easy for MS to make everyone buy IIS, because that would be the best server to use to serve sites for IE.
It didn't turn out that way for a variety of reasons (among them the rise of Mozilla, impossible to predict at the time, and the amazing growth of Apache), but that doesn't mean the lawsuit was wrong, knowing what we did at the time.
> Also how would people go about downloading the other browser if there was not internet explorer?
ftp.mozilla.org or similar; BSD FTP ships with pretty much any computer.
Its the nature of markets and competition that you dont always know whats going to happen.
Is it your opinion that whenever something might happen, befor it actually happens the state should stop it? Thats kind like the movie minority report.
Even if that had happened, they could have forced the competition to be more like IE but they could still have added features.
It was the same with IBM, everybody was afraid they would take over the world and explained why they need to be stopped, but things happend and they didn't. Thats pretty much the story of every single case, were some tech company seams like its talking over the world. Knowdays facebook seams to be the big baddy that need to be stopped. People are just afraid because the dont have the imagination to draw up alternatives.
All I see its companys growing and shriking and in 99.99% of the cases it not because of some antitrust laws.
> ftp.mozilla.org or similar; BSD FTP ships with pretty much any computer.
How many people, non nerds, know what FTP is? How many know that the have a FTP programm on there computer and how many would have known were and how to look for other browsers?
> Is it your opinion that whenever something might happen, befor[sic] it actually happens the state should stop it?
No, it is my opinion that when a company deliberately tries to break the law, it should be prosecuted for breaking the law, even if what it was trying to do was actually futile. Just like it's still a crime to mug someone even if it turns out they don't have any money in their pockets.
> How many people, non nerds, know what FTP is? How many know that the have a FTP programm[sic] on there[sic] computer and how many would have known were[sic] and how to look for other browsers?
So you give them a friendly interface, like the browser choice screen that MS actually implemented.
Binding two of your products to gather is not breaking the law. Trying to achive suggess is not breaking the law. Every company is trying to break the law, because every company tries to get 100% market share. Every company tries to integrate there products with each others.
> So you give them a friendly interface, like the browser choice screen that MS actually implemented.
So Microsoft should give you a featrue to download from the competition. If anything the would just not tell anybody were the alternatives are and give people a easy way to download IE. So you would end up with the same problem, everybody would just be downloading IE.
It was enougth to give people access to the internet and everybody went and download the alternatives.
It turns out that anticompetitive, monopoly-maintaining behavior is breaking the law. It didn't used to be, which is why we got antitrust law in the first place.
Every company tries to gain market share, but society, which creates the markets in the first place, suffers if they gain too much. That's one of the structural problems of capitalism.
If we are in favor of healthy free markets, we can't stand by as they decay into monopolies, which are not markets at all.
Also how would people go about downloading the other browser if there was not internet explorer?
When apple had much of the smartphone market, there was not antitrust against them, but there was a browser on that phone. Also if you cant put any software on a computer you sell, then the logical conclusion is that we should only be allowed to sell pre installed kernals, everything else would be abusing monopoly position (assuming there is a high market share in the OS). Microsoft probebly had 99% market share in defragmentation tools back then as well.
The faulty assumition is that the product is the operating system, in reality the product is more then just the operating system its a hole bundle of diffrent software.