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"but almost any OSS Framework" - are there real choices that do not involve the dynamic typing maintenance nightmare while giving you a C#-quality language? Maybe just Scala + Play.



I really wanted to use Scala+Play to get away from the MS stack, but the documentation for Play was pretty hard to navigate due to the volume of documentation and the breaking changes in 2.


You can also do Java + Play. And Go's out there now, and it comes with most of the stuff you get from Play out of the box (and for the other stuff, getting it is easy enough).


Go is a narrowly-specialized language though (no cross-platform mobile, lack of generics is bad for some projects etc.).


> And Go's out there now, and it comes with most of the stuff you get from Play out of the box (and for the other stuff, getting it is easy enough).

Any link? That seems to be pretty much wrong.


Which part? The coming with most of what you get from Play? Look at Go's template/html and net/http.

If you don't like those, pango2 aims to provide django-esque templates for go; things like martini, gin-gonic, and negroki provide nicer routers; and Gorilla aims to provide a good deal of web-server-y things.


or as good an ide as visual studio ...


hang on a sec....

Long time developer here, came from vs to eclipse and later Netbeans and Idea:

Tell me: don't you still have to buy resharper to get the same refactoring tools that I get for free in eclipse?


What kind of refactoring tools do you get free in eclipse that aren't included in VS 2013 or 2014?


I'm asking the question: maybe vs has improved since I left.

Until recently the meme among tje fanboys seemed to be "VS is the best ide" (i.e.: after you have installed resharper).

Are all modern refactoring tools installed ootb with vs 2013 or 2014?


the short answer is "no" not all "modern refactoring" tools are available in vs2014.

with the advent of roslyn and the compiler api i would be you'll be seeing more and more built into visual studio, or at the very least broken off into free community extensions as the 'guts' of writing these kinds of plugins will get much easier.

i still vastly prefer vs to eclipse just because of responsiveness alone; the core features are great, and i pay for resharper too because it's a great tool worth the money.


Great to know, thanks!




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