From the README:

> 4. To help us improve the editor, Atom sends usage information to Google Analytics. See [atom/metrics](https://github.com/atom/metrics) for details.

That is quite horrible in my opinion. Do I want an application on my computer that constantly sends information to Google and Github?

What kind of information is it sending? (from the link)

Collected Data

+ A unique identifier that is generated by computing the SHA-1 of the machine's MAC address.

+ The screen width and height

+ The version of Atom being used

+ The name of each item opened in a pane such as EditorView, SettingsView, and MarkdownPreviewView

+ The amount of time the current window was open for

+ The amount of time the current window took to load

+ The amount of time the app took to launch

Item no. 4 is the critical one. I really don't like this. However, you can apparently disable this:

> If you do not want this information reported, disable this package from the Metrics section of the Settings view `(cmd-,)`.

(edit: removed typo)

That is disturbing. I've had *.google-analytics.com nullrouted ever since I heard of GA.

> SHA-1 of the machine's MAC address.

There's only 2^48 MAC addresses, there are 2^160 SHA-1 hashes. With computing power at where it is today, a bruteforce over the MAC space wouldn't take long.

On the other hand, spoofing the data is also an alternative way of opposition...

> a bruteforce over the MAC space wouldn't take long

Indeed, best supercomputers are running today around 10 petaFLOPS (= 10^16 FLoating-point Operations Per Second) and there are 2^48 ~= 10^15 possible MAC addresses.

A FLOP is quite a lot simpler than a SHA-1 hash, however.

The Bitcoin network might be a better comparison since it uses doubled SHA-256; currently it's at around 3e16 hashes per second, or 6e16 SHA-256 operations per second. That's enough to hash all possible MACs in less than a second.

How dare they collect usage data to improve their free product!!!

It doesn't matter whether it is free or not. My only aim was to provide information that might be relevant for some people interested in trying out Atom (admittedly I mixed this information with my personal position towards Google and the ever-present tracking aka surveillance) so that they know the implicit price of its usage.

You are free to use Atom or anything else, but you should always have as much information available as possible to correctly judge what you pay for any given thing.

Are you serious? You expect me to provide a Fox News fair and balanced response in any of my comments on Hackernews? I could understand your point if I would have tried to be polemic, but I surely wasn't.

The other position was already provided for by github and numerous other posters, while I pointed out a fact that was not yet mentioned.

By the way, "benefits of sophisticated analysis" for whom? Google's ad revenues? I actually agree that github could provide a better product with the information gathered, but I really don't think that google should be in between me and github.

isn't that the purpose of the free software community? you find a malicious feature then you modify the software source code and release a clean version for interested people?

Sorry to tell you, it is not free. https://atom.io/faq "We haven't settled on pricing yet, but you can expect it to be competitively priced compared to similar editors."

If one takes Vim, Emacs, or Light Table as 'similar', then that would imply free...

Executing analytics code consumes CPU and network resources that I pay for so I do think people should have a say in what a third party does with them.

If it's "free" then you're the product (in this case, a promotion for Github).

And I think I have the right to refuse to be sold if there are better alternatives. They'll either have to step up their game (with FOSS) or lose me.

It's not free (as in speech nor beer). Unless something has changed (I haven't been following), it will become paid after the beta period is over.

I believe that the final product isn't going to be free - so that changes the landscape of the argument. Then again, maybe they won't have analytics in that version.

Note: I'm not making a comment on it being a paid for app - they've released bucket loads of open source code they wrote to create the editor. For that they should be praised.

Works, but the gist is now gone. However, it looks so similar to sublime, I can't believe it. In case anyone is looking for it: the command is curl -L https://www.atom.io/api/updates/download -A "Atom/0.1 CFNetwork/1.5" > Atom.zip

that command doesn't work anymore

Yup, results in

    {"message":"Not Found"}

The command works fine, putting it in your URL bar doesn't.

This was the contents of the file created by cURL. I wasn't the only case by upvotes.

However, I tried right now once more and it seems that it's available again.

So there's only one comment that gives the impression that there's some kind of troll going on. Just to let you know: It actually works, nothing fishy just someone posting the direct link to the app that's exposed via their update Api.

There's no activation or anything, it will just take you straight into the app.

Is it actually ok to download the app without an invite though?

If you live in The Netherlands it is. You need a license to read it into memory or even modify that memory (by executing it) though ;)

I would assume that github knows how to create a private github repository and therefore they wouldn't mind you cloning / forking it.

Legally, almost certainly. Morally, almost certainly not.

Not sure about that - if it's on a publicly accessible URL on a site designed to generate public interest, it's their own fault it got out.

Their clear wish is for this to be invite only. I agree that their 'security' should probably better if they want to protec themselves against certain types of people, but your argument is akin to justifying robbing a house of its contents because it was only locked up with no alarm and you had to break one window to get in.

No, my argument is not akin to that because piracy is not akin to theft. Downloading the beta from a public URL is not depriving Github of anything or breaking anything of theirs, whereas if I broke a window to steal something I've left the owner with a broken window and deprived them of the contents.

confirmed, works for me too

Yep working well!

Click the underlined "Atom.zip" next to "Download:" to download it.

http://speedyshare.com/cjJSs/Atom.zip

Thanks.

So, now that the zip file is missing from GitHub, some people are starting to upload it elsewhere. Can the people who got it from GitHub earlier post the result of running

  md5 Atom.zip

? That might help mollify the paranoid conscience.

(EDIT: or any other hash function for that matter.)

I think the atom.zip is being updated continuously. Today I finally got my invitation and it gives a different shasum too. File diff shows the Info.plist of my newly downloaded version as of 2014-03-07 is:

    <key>CFBundleShortVersionString</key>
    <string>0.69.0</string>

MD5 (Atom.zip) = 5454bd3a8271c93f5225cd2b57cdab81

$ shasum -a 256 Atom.zip

4614ec62feaea32392ad7f6b3a80534c8ad0c758ed210cabafcc86c5c49a49a1 Atom.zip

I'm getting something different today:

ababcd70ccaad1cba63f9b0a6fb1a566c4cca98c87333ddc7a9d2b2f81fd415e

Thank you. Can anyone else confirm this?

From the official update:

$ shasum -a 256 atom-mac.zip 4614ec62feaea32392ad7f6b3a80534c8ad0c758ed210cabafcc86c5c49a49a1 atom-mac.zip

$ md5sum atom-mac.zip 5454bd3a8271c93f5225cd2b57cdab81 atom-mac.zip

Confirmed. I downloaded from github directly yesterday night, when this was first posted. Same shasum/md5sum here.

Got the same hash.

This kinda feels a little piracy-ish. Github clearly wants to limit beta access for now.

(...with that said, I couldn't help myself.)

Hah, that was easy. Thanks.

It indeed works just fine. It looks very much like Sublime text as people have been saying. There's even a command palate.

One thing I noticed though straight off, it just doesn't feel as smooth as a native app. Is that just me?

EDIT: The gist was just removed. Glad I got it before it went down.

EDIT 2: The curl command still seems to be working:

    curl -L https://www.atom.io/api/updates/download -A "Atom/0.1 CFNetwork/1.5" > Atom.zip

It feels a little bit sluggish to me but not enough to effect my productivity. Opening folders/files seems to take a little longer than Sublime.

cd ~

curl -L https://www.atom.io/api/updates/download -A "Atom/0.1 CFNetwork/1.5" > Atom.zip

open Atom.zip

mv Atom.app /Applications/

rm -rf Atom.zip

Come on... people here should be able to handle a zip file...

also, "rm -rf Atom.zip" - WTF? Why not throw a "sudo" in there for good measure...

also, why 'open'? It's asynchronous with the bash session, so the mv will fail.

Yeah, "cd ~" is quite funny, too, but maybe we should leave this guy alone now :-)

Please forgive me, oh great overlords of HN, for copying and pasting the contents of the original gist without bothering to edit it.

Off topic: From Atom's FAQ, Atom is not going to be free.

"We haven't settled on pricing yet, but you can expect it to be competitively priced compared to similar editors"

Then why drop Sublime and move to Atom?

Better extendability?

Does anyone feel it's very, very wrong of Github to take down that gist?

No. Of course not. Seems like the easiest decision they made all week.

Imagine it was your software. And that somebody had pirated your beta and actually posted instructions on how to do so on the forums of your own website. What would you do?

Naturally, you'd delete the comment the second you saw it, then start working on patching the hole.

Which is what they did.

Can you articulate why?

Their terms of service aren't exactly a grand stand for freedom of expression:

We may, but have no obligation to, remove Content and Accounts containing Content that we determine in our sole discretion are unlawful, offensive, threatening, libelous, defamatory, pornographic, obscene or otherwise objectionable or violates any party's intellectual property or these Terms of Service.

From:

https://help.github.com/articles/github-terms-of-service

Well, I suppose I can try.

While I understand that Github is a private body and that their site is, well, their site ... forcibly deleting someone's gist simply because they don't like that that someone has found a way around their invite process smacks of underhandedness.

Will they suspend his account permanently as a result of this leak? Will he have his account limited in some other way, preventing him from having private repos, for example? Will they lash out against anyone sharing Atom.zip that they can trace back to a github account?

It's just all very "our show, our rules" of them to delete the gist.

And yes, I understand that it is their show. And yes, their ruleset too.

Doesn't make me feel any comfier in the knowledge that they'll simply delete anything that they don't approve of.

Imagine someone posting the url to access your commercial product because your dev didn't secure the download. And you have control over the post. What would you do then? And Github can delete anything they want. If anyone has problem with that, they sure can sue Github.

Like I said - I get that.

Also, like I said - it seems underhanded that they just reach into an account and delete gists

If it is the case that they removed it, I would prefer "Github has removed this content" to "Oh, hey, we can't find that".

Well, is there any sort of content that you would not fault them for removing?

Imo its perfectly reasonable to not want your new product leak out before official release for numerous reasons, like it not being finished/ready for example.

And for the reasons they give in their FAQ:

This beta invite program is designed to let us carefully control how many new people get access to Atom each day so we can provide timely bug fixes and support responses.

isn't that the same message if the user took it down? I.e. how do you know GitHub took it down themselves? btw, I also feel it's pretty wrong to exploit a workaround like this to obtain the software against the authors' wishes.

True, there's no proof that they did it.

I'd still put money on them having done it.

What makes this so slow? Is it because it is written in JS?

Nope, JS is fast enough. But it uses html for rendering the UI and syntax highlighting. Here is one line of C code "if (inLen < 1) {" in atom markup:

  <div class="line"><span class="source c">
  <span class="meta function c"><span class="meta block c">
  <span class="leading-whitespace indent-guide">  
  </span><span class="keyword control c">if</span>
  <span class="meta initialization c"> 
  <span class="punctuation definition parameters c">(</span>
  </span>inLen &lt; <span class="constant numeric c">1</span>)
  <span class="meta block c">
  <span class="punctuation section block begin c">{</span>
  </span></span></span></span></div>

Thanks for the reply. So, is there no way of speeding it up without moving away from HTML?

Is the html generated from JS? or is it static? would that make it faster? (newb questions)

Thanks!

I think the editor uses the same underlying technology that Chrome uses to display web pages. That's a lot of overhead for a text editor, but it makes it really easy to extend and do crazy things, basically anything that is possible in a browser. I honestly don't know what would make it faster.

    $ curl -L https://www.atom.io/api/updates/download 
    {"message":"Not Found"}
    
    $ curl -sLI https://www.atom.io/api/updates/download 
    HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found
    Cache-Control: no-cache
    Content-Type: application/json; charset=utf-8
    Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2014 12:23:50 GMT
    Set-Cookie: request_method=HEAD; path=/; secure
    Status: 404 Not Found
    Strict-Transport-Security: max-age=31536000
    X-Content-Type-Options: nosniff
    X-Frame-Options: SAMEORIGIN
    X-Request-Id: f69dc125-390e-40cc-969c-586a04dfa65d
    X-Runtime: 0.014472
    X-Ua-Compatible: chrome=1
    X-Xss-Protection: 1; mode=block
    Connection: keep-alive

I guess the game is over

Notice the other comments set the user agent - to one I assume is used by the app itself when it does auto updates. You probably need to set that:

    -A "Atom/0.1 CFNetwork/1.5

true I forgot to paste it back, same difference though:

    $ curl -sLI https://www.atom.io/api/updates/download -A "Atom/0.1 CFNetwork/1.5"
    HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found
    Cache-Control: no-cache
    Content-Type: application/json; charset=utf-8
    Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2014 12:55:36 GMT
    Set-Cookie: request_method=HEAD; path=/; secure
    Status: 404 Not Found
    Strict-Transport-Security: max-age=31536000
    X-Content-Type-Options: nosniff
    X-Frame-Options: SAMEORIGIN
    X-Request-Id: 23d92789-1d1f-4ed0-bb95-9e2ff4b33bbf
    X-Runtime: 0.014090
    X-Ua-Compatible: chrome=1
    X-Xss-Protection: 1; mode=block
    Connection: keep-alive

I don't have a mac, but still downloaded it , and just refreshed gist, its gone . Github staff really active on HN ?

maybe not in the sense that the GitHub owners are constantly refreshing the GitHub home page, but they could certainly have notifications set up for posts that mention GitHub. plus, anything as relevant as this is, is going to reach them pretty quickly by many different routes.

curl -L https://www.atom.io/api/updates/download -A "Atom/0.1 CFNetwork/1.5" > Atom.zip

gist is gone

curl -L https://www.atom.io/api/updates/download -A "Atom/0.1 CFNetwork/1.5" > Atom.zip

I think I've found the original gist: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/9265315

Also gone

Working link: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=NJngNDk8

Not anymore.

Yeah, now updates within the app are broken.

How can I download it for Windows ?

OS X only for now.

It is rather disappointing that github heads down the Mac OS path while they base their company around a concept which is rather strange to most things Apple - openness and sharing. Writing for Mac OS first also makes it harder to port to other platforms as it is a rather idiosyncratic platform.

If they insist on pushing Mac OS AND want to be seen as a good free software citizen they might want to consider putting some effort in the GNUstep project. Once GNUstep is up to par they should be able to build for that on Linux and Windows with minimal porting efforts.

Still, I'm disappointed in the lack of vision many of these so-called 'open source' companies exhibit. Don't they realise that by pushing these closed, proprietary platforms they undermine the very base of their own existence? The software and community which github depends on was not the result of the generous sponsorship from Microsoft and Apple after all...

They have always been hypocritical enough to sell a proprietary product for open source software.

Fishy practices, sounds like Apple. It checks out.

I'm making an assumption that the majority (if not entirety) of GitHub employees use a Mac, so why wouldn't they make an editor for themselves on a platform that they use? I doubt they're doing it to bolster the OSX ecosystem as much as meet their own needs.

Because the product they provide is tailored to open source/free software. No matter how much you might be enamoured by Apple and its polished products it is hard to get around the fact that these are the opposite of open and free.

Remember what happened when Linus decided he wanted use BitKeeper to maintain Linux? Also remember how that worked out in the end? Free and/or open source software and closed, proprietary companies often make odd bedfellows.

During beta. It will be on other platforms soon. Chill.

Wtf. Why would one start with the software-patent and lawsuit-based platform?

Does nobody at github have any sense of ethics? Github was built on open source software and Linux. Why not give something back? Why support those who spend national budgets on anti open-source lawsuits?

Probably because GitHub was built with Macs. And it's not like they haven't open sourced a thing...

Why would you?

Err... because you want to try out an experimental text editor that's rumoured to be quite nice and you run Windows? seriously, what on earth is the point of your post? Are you trying to make a snarky comment about something? if so, at least flesh it out with some actual humour or context.

FYI:

At the moment Atom only runs on OS X (10.8 or later). Windows and Linux releases are on the roadmap.

From atom.io/faq

And boom. The script is gone :)

The gist seems to be down, anybody take a copy of the contents?

This was the curl command:

curl -L https://www.atom.io/api/updates/download -A "Atom/0.1 CFNetwork/1.5" > Atom.zip

There doesn't seem to be a way to emulate Vi or Emacs :-(

Install the 'Vim mode' plugin (under Packages)

Excellent!!!

Is there a way to install in ubuntu?

not until it's released (or you use OSX in a VM)

FileDropper is really slow for europe. Mirror: http://www68.zippyshare.com/v/17397784/file.html

Here's a command to download from zippyshare without using the website.

wget http://www68.zippyshare.com/d/17397784/131268/Atom.zip \ --referer='http://www68.zippyshare.com/v/17397784/file.html' \ --cookies=off --header "Cookie: JSESSIONID=F95B7128B57441E49B5F33920D27AFD0" \ --user-agent='Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0; WOW64; Trident/4.0; SLCC1)'

Thanks Jxnathan

Does anyone have the Atom.zip?

The gist has been taken down.

hello

thank you.

Can anyone reupload the zip to another host? It doesn't work for me.

Same here. Though of course I'd prefer to get it from GitHub directly.

I lol'd.