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I also want to be able to give the site a seed to an existing token, i.e. a hard token like the gemalto. This is the step so many of them get wrong.

(If I'm logging in primarily from a phone/tablet, an authenticator app on the same device is much less secure against targeted attacks than a hardware token would be. Plus, hardware tokens allow lots of useful things like physical-escrow based access control.)



The problem with token reuse is the same as with password reuse: If a site gets compromised, your token is worthless. If the token is burned into hardware, then your hardware is now worthless.


I didn't mean that tokens should be shared across sites; more that a single physical token for a role account (like a backup admin login for an auditor could be escrowed with a CFO (who does not have a login)

You'd still have one hard token per site (in reality, you'd have one or two hard tokens for the most important things, and then use soft tokens for everything else.)




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