Tailscale Down® - Unscheduled network downtime to engage in the immediate needs of your meat sack existence. Eat food, speak with other meat sacks, expel food, touch grass!
Nothing personal against tailscale but I hope it drives the point home that leaving the hosting of the key exchange server for your mesh network to an external entity is a little bit ridiculous.
And for some specific somebody, fixing the problem is their whole job. It’s definitely not my whole job. Maybe not even my job at all (if it’s something I just use as part of a personal hobby.)
Cloud providers have enormous economic incentive to recover from outages as fast as possible and can bring many more people to help, often ones who wrote the code and designed the system. I once worked for a state government where the exchange server was down for two weeks.
I had to deal with a state Medicaid system that would go down often. If it crashed after 5pm, it was down until the next morning when someone rebooted the SunOS box. (Yes, they just rebooted the box, and no, in 2014 it was still sunos, not Solaris). Meanwhile, it’s messing up pharmacy authorization for thousand of elderly and low income people in the state ….
I ran my own Wireguard for years, but its too clunky and difficult to put all my devices on it. And if the power at my house goes out, the net is fully down. I suppose its a trade-off for using Tailscale now, with a great command line tool and a great UI so I have actually onboarded the rest of my family here. It was too much of a hassle with plain Wireguard nodes.
For me tailscale being down just means I can't access things I'm not comfortable exposing publicly outside my home. It isn't a huge deal as I rarely have that need.
with Tailscale Lock you have a lot more control, you can also self-host your coordinator server which is an alternative even mentioned in the service docs[0]
Oh this is unlucky. I'm not affected because I use headscale (for my home network), but this is one of those companies I root for because the product is so good. We used to have manually managed Wireguard (one end terminating at Router) to create the similar effect and for my home, this is way nicer.
It's getting to a point where I _want_ to pay for it so I can demand better service from them :)
Just having tailscale ssh is so damn useful when you've got a bunch of servers virtual and physical and co-located. Just get them to the tailnet and ssh via Tailscale. No need to open SSH ports.
Pretty sure that was the case. I heavily use Tailscale at work and have been working steady on multiple VNC connected clients over Tailscale Wireguard tunnels without issue. Just wrapped it up for the day and hit the ‘ol watering hole (hackernews) to see this. I didn’t connect/disconnect or have to use the portal during that time period, but my in place connections were fine.
Both the web interface and connections are down now. Was just fiddling with my private DNS serving both my local network and tailnet, when I lost access to the device listing around 20 minutes ago. Now I also cannot connect through tailnet IPs anymore. EDIT: took me a good minute to realise this too, as I thought I'd just screwed up something in my Pi's ipv6 configuration for the 3rd time in an hour.
P.S. you beat me to posting by 1 minute! Happy to see there was an option to hide my submission, never needed that before.
Would love to see something like Tailscale but local-first, where your devices use Bluetooth, mDNS, NFC, QR codes, etc for signaling and only fall back to STUN/TURN as a last resort.
Tailscale is definitely not one of that crowd. Their CEO had some very reasonable takes on AI and developers on LinkedIn / their blog (linked in a sibling comment).
