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40 to 60 enemas a day? Per person? Even for hyperbole, that sounds like a lot.


Seems like a pure logistics issue to me.


I knew one person--shared a flat with them--who was heavily into that sort of spiritual-esque alternative health, the sort you'd connect to the so-called Woo-to-Q pipeline these days, who would subject themselves to that kind of thing. It was all about the 'cleanse':

1. Fast on water for a week 2. Drink a cup of olive oil, straight 3. Multiple enemas several times a week 4. Maintain a raw vegan diet in between

Throw in the occasional ayahuasca weekend (another cleaning ritual involving a rather extreme amount of, uh, purging). And for good measure dose yourself on some kind of poisonous frog venom for more of the same.

If I didn't know any better I would say there was some cult mentality going on, the gateway to manipulation being past childhood trauma and a borderline eating disorder. None of it seemed particularly healthy.

Although with 40+ enemas a day I don't know how you'd have time to do anything else.


> Although with 40+ enemas a day I don't know how you'd have time to do anything else

This is what triggered me to questioning even allowing for hyperbole. At what point does it become kink/fetish/addiction?


Maybe "giving yourself enemas for 2 hours straight every day" is what they're referring to as "giving yourself 40-60 enemas a day". At 2-3 minutes per enema, that's plausible. It's also crazy but I think it's supposed to be crazy.


> Throw in the occasional ayahuasca weekend (another cleaning ritual involving a rather extreme amount of, uh, purging).

Ayahuasca is a psychdelic substance. sure, there is vomiting, but that isn't the main part of it just like drinking alcohol isn't centered around getting a hangover or destroying your brain cells


I misrepresented it, yes, but learning from my then-time friend, the purging aspect was a key aspect of it for them. More or less a way of getting ‘all that shit’ out of your system.

That is obviously a perversion of the social act of taking ayahuasca in the context of a cult-like situation, when you also combine it with the ritual of deep and frequent cleansing.

I think a good characterisation of it is Vera in Mr Robot, who basically does this and comes back as if he’s fully enlightened.


That's roughly one per 20 minutes?

I think that's doable, it likely wasnt a traditional enema, they most likely just had to put some fluid in which consequently got absorbed by their column. Like 5 ml or so.

Definitely mind boggling people are willing to do such, but it's within my expectations for people that fall to such obvious scams/cults.


>That's roughly one per 20 minutes? >I think that's doable,

I'm thinking of this for someone working in an office situation. Depending on how long it takes to perform the enema, this is about the same schedule as smokers. So maybe it's not so far off??

Then again, I'm guessing you divided that by 24 hours rather than a work day. Once per 20 minutes would me no sleep which would have worse health effects


No, I dividend between 16 waking hours - it's a pretty easy calculation: 16x3=48, which is within the range of 40-60.

If the person did it every 15 minutes it'd be 64 times during waking hours, but I felt that "roughly 20 minutes" suffices for a time range of 16-20 minutes •́ ‿ , •̀


It is! It's completely insane, and apparently at that level significantly harmful. That's why it was deemed to be a cult.

.. but you can also see a lot of slightly less intense grassroots health marketing or MLMs that also look very culty. Health in particular is a fertile ground for microcults.


The article specifies that it was enough to cause hallucinations


it's called "ass tripping" and many have found it to be a epiphany-provoking spiritual journey. Jim Morrison was big on ass tripping for example.




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