Yeah but fly.io is a cloud provider doing this advertisement with OpenAI Apis. Both cost money, so if it's not free to operate then the developed project should offset the costs.

Its about balance.

Really its the AI providers that have been promising unreal gains during this hype period, so people are more profit oriented.

What does "cloud provider" even have to do with this post?

Or maybe some of us realize that these tools are fucking useless and don’t offer any “value” apart from the most basic thing imaginable.

And I use value in quotes because as soon as the AI providers suddenly need to start generating a profit, that “value” is going to cost more than your salary.

It doesn't have to be profitable. Elegant and clever would suffice.

I don't think hn is reflective of where programmers are today, culturally. 10 years ago, sure, it probably was.

what place is more reflective today?

I don't know about online forums, but all my IRL friends have a lot more balanced takes on AI than this forum. And honestly it extends beyond this forum to the wider internet. Online, the discourse seems extremely polarized: either it's all a pyramid scheme or stories about how development jobs are already defunct and AI can supervise AI etc.