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The first prime minister of Israel was David Ben-Gurion.

Targeting the British during the Mandate was an act of anti-colonization, not unlike other factions that wanted independence from the British at that time, and the Irgun did warn the British before hand but they did not evacuate the hotel which was the central offices of the British Mandate and the Headquarters of the British Army



Yeah good catch on the first Prime Minister bit. But let's hear you try to whitewash the Deir Yassin massacre. Irgun were wicked.


There is nothing to whitewash about wars and war crimes, they happen in every war, and are inexcusable in every war, no matter the side.

For every war crime from Jewish side you can always point to a similar one from Arab side, this finger pointing is not useful for anything but spurring more hate and igniting the conflict over and over.


I disagree completely. Its important to condemn terrorism and genocide on both sides. I have no tolerance for that. Its absurd to try to convince me to ignore this, or to try and excuse the IDF because the other side is bad too. Hamas is bad. Nazis are bad. The IDF is bad. The Israeli state is bad. Israeli society is rotten. These are all true and useful statements. I don't understand why you would spend your time on the internet trying to argue against this.


You apply broken logic here and show your biases loud and clear.

Should you decide to be consistent with your logic, then we quickly arrive at human race also being bad and we can end this circus.


Irgun had nothing to do with Deir Yassin, it was the Etzel and Lehi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8bkqqvoGpc


Irgun and Etzel are different names for the same organization. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irgun

"Hannah Arendt and Albert Einstein, in a letter to The New York Times in 1948, compared Irgun and its successor Herut party to "Nazi and Fascist parties" and described it as a "terrorist, right wing, chauvinist organization" "


haha I love this thread.




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