Yes, and my main point that LA always has multiple not fully extinguished flames

Highlighting the vulnerability to climate change

Right now, that’s just government officials trying to cover their ass with finger pointing in the face of standard operating procedure, either way incompetence needs to be rooted out and the procedure needs to be changed, recognizing the changing climate environment

Again, FTA:

> A Times investigation found that LAFD officials did not pre-deploy any engines to the Palisades ahead of the Jan. 7 fire, despite warnings about extreme weather. In preparing for the winds, the department staffed up only five of more than 40 engines available to supplement the regular firefighting force.

> Those engines could have been pre-positioned in the Palisades and elsewhere, as had been done in the past during similar weather.

This was governmental failure at large. Not climate change. Extreme weather happens, and we (citizens) expect our government to prepare accordingly. It's literally their job to prepare for this sort of catastrophe.

> Right now, that’s just government officials trying to cover their ass with finger pointing

You are right - with finger pointing at climate change, throwing their hands up in the air while saying "what are you gonna do, it's extreme weather!". The weather was predictable and was predicted - and the government failed to plan accordingly. The government systematically underfunded, under-trained, and under utilized it's emergency resources. There's very little excuse here.

I'm very familiar with the post-mortem, most of this was available since March

Since you like to quote things that are unrelated to the prior things you quoted, let's continue listing them:

The reservoir for the palisades wasn't filled due to a different form of incompetence, so even if the firefighters were there they would run out of water

The pump system in the palisades didn't have enough pressure for large scale use, multiple fire hydrants would have resulted in the same lack of water

Now let's go back to what was mentioned earlier, and the thing we actually agree on, the standard operating procedure needs to change - and here is where we disagree: with urgency due to the likelihood of weather events.

This whole thread I specifically avoided saying "its due to climate change" selecting words to avoid your deflections, and yet your whole identity is based on making sure nobody even discusses the possibility it might be.

There are also smouldering fires in LA quite often. The way LAFD deals with them needs to change.... due to the likelihood of weather events. The palisades fire smouldering would have been fine without the hurricane force winds, but it wasn't, and we always have smouldering fires left alone by LAFD once they get to that state.

> The reservoir for the palisades wasn't filled due to a different form of incompetence, so even if the firefighters were there they would run out of water

> The pump system in the palisades didn't have enough pressure for large scale use, multiple fire hydrants would have resulted in the same lack of water

You cite even more governmental failures, then somehow still claim "due to climate change" policy needs to change. Weather events didn't create this fire - a human did, and governmental failures stacked to turn it into a disaster. Somehow your take-away is "climate change" nonetheless...

LA without warm winds at hurricane level strength: incompetent government and smouldering fires everywhere that cause no damage

LA with high warm winds at hurricane level strength: incompetent government and smouldering fires everywhere that destroy entire neighborhoods

ok.