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We're so screwed. Tahoe sucks so my Sonoma days are numbered. Win11 sucks and win10 days are numbered. On the other hand the rails guy released Omarchy linux which is pretty great but it will take months to make it usable.




I'm getting used to Linux again after 20+ years of Mac OS.

First, just using more cross-platform software on my Mac. Ditched Safari for Firefox; replaced my MacOS-only password manager; using iMessage less.

Bought the cheapest Framework 13 laptop, running stock Fedora. Omarchy is interesting but too weird for me. Gnome, is still familiar enough.

Using the Linux machine more and more, feels very fresh. To be honest not feeling this excited in a long time. Perhaps the year of Linux on the desktop is indeed coming.


I may get there at some point -- I actually ran Linux on a PowerBook for a while during the dot-com boom -- but Mac OS X was Unix with tastefully-done office software, and Gnome/KDE were tasteless kludges. Now it seems all software is converging on the same bubbly, mediocre slop. Sadly, Apple still makes the best laptops by far, and trying to run Linux on them takes me to the bad old days of editing XF86Config files and failing to sleep when the lid closes.

But back to the article on hand... Windows has been shoddy since forever, and Windows-compatible laptops are mostly mediocre things that can also run Linux. I could absolutely see a lot of casual Windows users switching to Linux for email, web, and office tasks.


But win 10 days are numbered in years, same for Sonoma? Definitely longer than months (though in reality think it should take much longer)

Erm..

> not being able to load the latest .Net; Teams and more and more other apps refuse to run despite the OS still being "in support" now


Erm, how is this relevant to the number of days???

You're saying years remain, while he's saying there are problems now

No, he isn't, you're just confused about the comment chain. I was replying to a different person about a different issue.

I think you likely missed #1 in the chain:

1. logifail: I've been using Win10 LTSC since it first shipped, but the pain of it keeps increasing

2. MarcelOlsz: We're so screwed...Win 10 days are numbered

3. You: Win 10 days are numbered in years

4. Me: Erm + quote from #1

5. You: how is this relevant to number of years

6. Me: He's saying there are problems now

7. You (parent of this): I was replying to someone else

8. Me: this


If we ignore relevance, you missed a comment above 1. If we don't, you missed an explanation how 1. is relevant when I wasn't discussing logifail's pain with Win10, but marcel's lamentation that the better version will soon be gone before a replacement is viable

Marcel laments that Windows 10's days are numbered

As I understand it, you seem to respond that actually Windows 10 has a long life ahead (its "days are numbered in years"). Yet just above that--the comment causing Marcel's lamentations--is evidence that Windows 10 is already on its way out now.

How would that evidence--that Windows 10 is already a problem--not be relevant to your assertion that Windows 10's days will be numbered in years?

How will its days be numbered in years if there are problems with ecosystem support for it today?

For the record, I detest Windows 11 and intend to stay on Windows 10 until I'm forced off of it


> laments that Windows 10's days are numbered

What do you think that means for the second person? EOL or Teams? Compare it to Sonoma vs Tahoe.

> Yet just above that is evidence that Windows 10 is already on its way out now.

For a different person for a different reason! which you keep conflating. If it's already out, why would you complain that its days are numbered compared to an OS that "sucks"???

> How will its days be numbered in years if there are problems with ecosystem support for it today?

Again, if you conflate different arguments into one, how are the days numbered instead of 0 if you believe these problems mean you have no days left / can't measure them in years?

> For the record, I...intend to stay on Windows 10 until I'm forced off of it

Exactly, you see, a different person has a different perspective on whether 10 is expired.


> What do you think that means for the second person?

I think it means the same thing for #1, #2, and me: "Windows 10's days are numbered" means "unfortunately we can't effectively stay on it for a whole lot longer because more and more of the ecosystem is dropping support." #2 was rejoining #1, not disagreeing. All 3 of us prefer Windows 10 over 11.

The fact that things have stopped supporting it doesn't mean it's immediately unusable today, it means it's getting increasingly difficult and thus...its days are numbered.

There will come a point when it's too impractical, and the writing is on the wall that's going to happen a lot sooner than years from now.




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