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First, I am sorry as I did not intend to "push" in this way. As I mentioned, I respect your principled posting history and I deeply respect what you wrote above.

My last question was one of curiosity. I can reframe but I don't insist on an answer. As I clumsily tried to allude to - I see religion as a source of "timelessness" that anchors somebody to something other than what's happening today. I hear from my religious friends things like "we know it seems today that X, but our faith supports us in believing its Y." So for them, "be fruitful and multiply" would be Gd's eternal command, that would override whatever seems to be the case today. So I was genuinely curious whether that's very different in Christianity (I know there's a huge range of sects and beliefs within it) and how these things are reconciled. But I of course understand that's very personal and I didn't mean to tangle my curiosity with a need for you to "justify your decision". Sorry.



A huge portion of Christians read "be fruitful and multiply" as a command to specific people, not a command in general. And it is nowhere near the core message of the religion. Paul himself praises a childless life.

I also find the idea that "thinking eternally" is bound so tightly with "having children" to be very odd.


I appreciate your first paragraph and will read more about that.

>> I also find the idea that "thinking eternally" is bound so tightly with "having children" to be very odd.

I guess I can't relate to that. What I do today in my life is only due to (a) the fact that my ancestors fought and labored to survive and procreate and (b) of the values they passed down.

From my grandfather's perspective, I am his agent in today's world, and Gd willing my own grandchildren will be mine (and therefore his) agents in the future.

So one thing I meant around eternal here is that my own role and time is less significant in context of this greater continuity. Or put it another way, I could easily find seemingly valid reasons to not have kids but the fear of breaking this cycle and being the last of the line feels to me very opposite of orienting to eternity. Again, I understand that's not the choice you're making and that's totally cool, I am just explaining my framework.


We are not our genetic material. My influence persists into the future if I help somebody, even if they are not related to me.




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