>like all other peoples, have an intrinsic human right to self-determination and a state to call their own, and should not live as second class citizens at the whim of the states in which they reside.
All other people except Palestinians then? It sure seems like this is exactly the treatment they have received over the decades.
Yes, Palestinians have a right to self-determination as well. That is not at odds with Zionist beliefs, so long as there is room for BOTH peoples to reach a compromise on a solution that meets the core needs of both Jews and Arabs. That remains elusive.
I fail to see the relevance. Zionism is a belief about the primary importance of Jewish self-determination. It is not tied to contemporary Israeli politics, whatever that might be.
My sympathies are with all the civilian population in the area.
By your own logic here, you would suggest that the people killed in the heinous terrorist attack in october 2023 were killed because they did not stop being violent?
Of course that is a ridiculous statement.
Palestinians have been oppressed and attacked and their land taken, by Israel, for many decades.
This does not justify terrorist attacks, but neither do the attacks justify what Israel has done.
We can keep in mind that the most promising peace deal was sabotaged by extremists from Israel.
I have no sympathy for terrorists of any nationality or designation, which is why I condemn both Hamas and the current administration of Israel.
Massacres happened on both sides, but one side (the instigators) had leadership telling them to flee, maybe because it wasn't really their homeland to begin with; they were just settlers from all over the region. And the other side stayed, because it was their ancestral homeland.
Have you done a survey, like how many people ran away because of the massacres per se, and how many ran away because their leaders told them to (for reasons unrelated to avoiding a possible massacre)?
You seem to assume that it is 0% of the former and 100% of the latter, which I find dubious.
Because even if it is let's say 50% and 50%, it is no longer true to say that all have left voluntarily.
There is the belief that Palestinians are the ones living in the area of British palestina and that Israel are also considered Palestinians and there should be one state
All other people except Palestinians then? It sure seems like this is exactly the treatment they have received over the decades.