Heck, I'm concerned how they're going to work in the Bay Area after an earthquake or cell network outage.

Yeah I'm falling for it by using it every day in 95% of my driving. You're falling for media stories.

For now.

It's important to not confuse activity, with progress, with results.

At the same time, it's important to not confuse or downplay results, with progress, with activity.

There seems to be activity, progress, and results. It seems to be speeding up.

I don't have any preference for or against Tesla. Just observing.

> For now.

What can incremental progress do to make a camera see through road salt deposited on its lens? I call bullshit. There isn't any incremental path because it's not physically possible. The photons are stopped by the salt. No amount of "AI" or what the fuck ever else will change this. There is no path towards "progress" here.

My understanding is lenses should be inside the windshield, and a system should not oeprate if it can't see.

I don't operate from an assumption that cameras will remain the same as they are today.

Your comment did remind me about Comma, though.

https://comma.ai/

Just for the sake of argument, they could use spinning lenses like you do on a camera in inclement weather

Yeah or some sort of washer/wiper system, but there's much better, safer technology for this. They could just use it.

The front bumper cameras already have a spray wash

You'll eat your words much sooner than you think. The cameras don't need much clarity to work effectively (they work quite well in intense rain). The main forward camera is behind the windshield already.