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		queenkjuul 5 months ago \| parent \| context \| favorite \| on: Ask HN: Have you ever regretted open-sourcing some... Apple Tesla and Microsoft arguably really don't count. Microsoft is selling shovels. Tesla is, well, Tesla. Apple is not competing on frontier models, far as i can tell

epolanski 5 months ago [–]

Apple has 400 open positions for AI scientists, and more than 4000 people are estimated to work on core AI tools (Apple Intelligence, etc).

Microsoft is itself working on both building AI hardware and models (such as Phi).

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