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Pulling away by investing billions in the US economy and buying more US products and services?

You have a weird definition of pulling away.





If you review the stipulations of the "deals" and read any of the analysis, these are stop-gaps.

New production commitments, military commitments, pulling away from US big tech.

No matter what happens, the damage has been done. It's picking up momentum seemingly every day.

And they seem more than happy to take our scientific researchers.


>pulling away from US big tech

Stock price says otherwise. Probably because replacing MS Office with Libre Office doesn't really mean much while still running your digital infrastructure on US services, US chips and US phones. Lemme know when EU creates its own You Tube.

>And they seem more than happy to take our scientific researchers.

Who's taking who's researchers? Got any examples. From what I saw Linus Torvalds is still in US.


> Lemme know when EU creates its own You Tube.

March 15, 2005.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dailymotion

> Who's taking who's researchers? Got any examples. From what I saw Linus Torvalds is still in US.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-025-00938-y

I wouldn't call Linus a "scientific researcher". He's an engineer, and that's also a group that economies need, but he's not a scientist, and not a researcher.

Unfortunately for the "engineering" part: https://archive.ph/xChye


>https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-025-00938-y

I can only read the title due to paywall, but that doesn't answer the question that I made to your comment that someone is stealing someone else's researchers. I asked for hard examples of researchers being stolen that back up your point.

>He's an engineer, and that's also a group that economies need

And why is he and the rest like him in the US and not in Europe?


> I asked for hard examples of researchers being stolen that back up your point.

"Stolen" is a far cry from "taken". Researchers are not property, they have free will. And in this case, it's "taken" in the sense of "taken on" or "taken in", because the USA is actively cutting science and research budgets.

So, you want what, a dozen names of people you've likely never heard of because most researchers are not celebrities?

Or you could ask Shelly Sakiyama-Elbert, the vice dean of research and graduate education at UW Medicine, who said "We’re going to have a big brain drain in the U.S. of these really talented folks, … It’s not just a switch that you flip, right? If people move out into another direction with their careers, they often don’t come back." - https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/one-countrys-lead...

There's some pseudonymous examples here, too: https://english.elpais.com/science-tech/2025-03-27/us-scient...

> And why is he and the rest like him in the US and not in Europe?

Why did he go to the USA in the first place? Because of the different world in 1997 when he graduated.

Why is he still there? Everyone's different, but I can say that the older you get, more ties you have. After Brexit, I was free to move to Germany, but my brother, a decade older and with a family, couldn't even though he was interested.


"Nature also analyzed its jobs board and found “that US scientists submitted 32% more applications for jobs abroad between January and March 2025 than during the same period in 2024.”

"Scientists who have felt abandoned in the U.S. are being courted by institutions across the world. Aix-Marseille University (AMU), located in France, "introduced eight U.S.-based researchers who were in the final stage of joining the institution's 'Safe Place for Science' program, which aims to woo researchers who have experienced or fear funding cuts under the Trump administration," said Politico. The program has received close to 300 applications from some of the top institutions in the U.S."

Source: https://theweek.com/science/scientists-refugees-research-tru...

"There are also new scientific refugees in the making. Trump's "big, beautiful bill" calls for a 56% cut to the National Science Foundation budget and a 73% reduction in staff and fellowships. It also cuts resources from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, Environmental Protection Agency, Department of Agriculture and U.S. Geological Service. There is a "whole generation of young scientists who see no pathway into the field for them,""

https://www.reddit.com/r/AmerExit/comments/1ked2hy/which_cou...




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