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Trump has already tried to use pressure to help Bolsonaro by announcing a 50% tariff on goods from Latin America’s No. 1 economy

Apparently this (fueled by family members lobbying) has backfired in Brazil as members of Bolsonaro's base are disaponted by what is perceived as his anti national behaviour.



"Bolsonaro's base" is doing nothing of the sort. They think these sanctions are awesome. They are absolutely necessary in a judiciary dictatorship where protesters are sent to jail as political prisoners. If anything, they're not nearly enough.

Bolsonaro was the one who revived brazilian nationalism against all odds. Lula and his communists likened it to Nazi Germany and made it their explicit goal to destroy said nationalism. Now that the USA is sanctioning them, they're appealing to nationalism? They shit all over the military then call upon them when their "sovereignty" is threatened? That's hilarious, comical.

I for one would very much rather see this country burn than see it governed by the unelected courts. Maybe then a nation that's actually worthy of nationalism will rise from its ashes.


> Bolsonaro was the one who revived brazilian nationalism against all odds

while staying in US. Funny how a lot of "nationalists" run to the mothership when something goes wrong.


We agree. I consider Bolsonaro a cowardly rat who betrayed everyone who ever supported him. He was in the USA while people were protesting in his name and literally going to jail for him.

He's still the person who managed to revive brazilian nationalism against all odds and despite the hipocrisy. Surely that's not in dispute here?


I agree he's the person who managed to give rise to Brazilian fascism, yes. Unless you consider nationalism as the desire to regress back into a brutal dictatorship where dissenting voices get "disappeared", the media is heavily censored and controlled by the state and the government kowtows to American supremacy and interests.


> regress back into a brutal dictatorship

Brazil is a dictatorship of the judiciary. Maybe it's not a "brutal" dictatorship but it is a dictatorship.

The unelected supreme court walked all over our elected congress just days ago. Only reason why they don't dissolve the brazilian congress is they need to maintain the illusion of democracy.

> where dissenting voices get "disappeared"

> the media is heavily censored and controlled by the state

Already reality in some form or other. It's just not happening quite so overtly as it would happen in a so called "brutal" dictatorship.

> the government kowtows to American supremacy and interests

Better than kowtowing to chinese supremacy and interests.

You cannot possibly think there's even the slightest possibility of Brazil failing to kowtow to someone, right? Right. So I'd rather it be someone I agree with, and it sure as hell isn't China and Russia.


> Brazil is a dictatorship of the judiciary. Maybe it's not a "brutal" dictatorship but it is a dictatorship.

Do you have anything to back that claim up beyond your usual 'I read the Brazilian constitution'?

Yes, you may have read the constitution and you might even be very smart, however what you don't comprehend is that law is not code, nor is it everyday English in spite of laws being written in English. Interpreting the law requires training, experience and context. There is a reason why law is a separate field of study and there are licensing requirements.

If you're still convinced of your legal smarts, try volunteering at a legal aid clinic based on your reading of the constitution and the Brazilian criminal code. It will very quickly teach you just how little you actually know in this area.


There's some flag waving and some "nationalistic" discourse but you can't take that at face value.

These "Brazilian nationalists" were marching to and saluting a Statue of Liberty replica that stands in front of a department store a few years back.

This isn't nationalism, just authoritarianism.


Call it whatever you want. Maybe it was just hope. Blind hope that this mediocre country could become something different, something better. Bolsonaro's mandate left much to be desired but at least he wasn't yet another leftist communist.




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