As of 2024Q1, Brave had a market share of 1.27% vs Firefox's 3.97% (via Cloudflare, here: https://radar.cloudflare.com/reports/browser-market-share-20... ). As of 2025, 1.05% vs 4.10% ( https://radar.cloudflare.com/reports/browser-market-share-20... ).

Interestingly enough, right, we can see that the same CEO left Mozilla and then started Brave, and we can see the growth of Brave and the decline of Mozilla.

You can argue, sure, that market conditions are responsible for Mozilla's plight--the decreasing value as antitrust insurance for GOOG and so forth. But, Brave managed to do well in spite of that, and to my knowledge if you look at the pay, at his peak at Mozilla Eich was making in the 800-900K range while Baker made over 6M a year from 2022 to 2023 (and just a bit under 6M in 2021). So, for around 8x the price, you had worse leadership.

To restate again: the dude started a new browser company and grew it to a quarter the size of Firefox--and this without having GOOG as a sugardaddy.

It's an incredibly mid take to assume that individual competence in business is somehow not actually relevant.

Nah, that's the "less worse man" in this case, nothing as grand.