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Let's consider cars (or vehicles in general) as another mainstream example of completely vertically integrated products which comprise hardware and – now – software.

Toyota Motor Corp., Volkswagen Group (multiple brands), Hyundai Motor Group, GM and Stellantis N.V. are the top 5 largest automakers in the world whose annual output is comparable with that of largest smartphone makers, including Apple (with the adjustment of the scale).

None of the automakers allow anyone outside the vertical(s) they have built to gain a foothold in the verticals. This includes: replacement parts, mandated regular service at an official, brand-certified dealership as the condition of the warranty (for new vehicles), software updates only from the vehicle manufacturer, probably something else. No outsiders are allowed under any circumstances – if one misses a regular service at an official dealership before the warranty period has lapsed, the warranty is automatically voided. Some even extend to chipped/cracked windshields that, if replaced, will void the vehicle warranty, even though there is nothing special about a windshield today.

Vehicle manufacturers are by all definitions stagegate keepers, and they impose expensive services upon their product users without giving them an alternative.

Why are governments allowing this to happen?[0]

[0] I know that it is because of safety regulations as the manufacturer will claim that they can only guarantee the safety of its own vehicle if it has original parts, but let's pretend for a moment that it is not an issue.



At least some of your points are not allowed in the EU. Manufacturers have to provide the manuals on what constitutes a "proper" service or inspection to independent service places and have to accept their work in their warranty requirements.


Pretty much none of what you mention is true. There's a huge ecosystem of 3rd party mechanics, replacement parts, services and maintenance for used cars.

Even a cursory glance at the world around you quickly proves that what you wrote it just utter crock.


There is no need to respond if you can't hold a civilised discourse and choose to descend into directed insults instead.

One can't install a Ford made shock absorber on a Honda Civic and vice versa. The time of interchangeable spare parts came to an end some time in 1980-90's where the car manufacturers started actively embracing the vertical integration. If somebody makes compatible, third party parts, it is mostly for a small selection of performance and sports cars and is not mainstream. I just replaced the chipped and cracked windshield last week, and I had to wait for 2 months for the replacement to arrive because only the original glass existed out there, with no cheap Chinese alternatives being available – they don't exist, either.

And I had a continuous problem with spare parts for my previous 20 years old car that was more than 10 years out of production, and the car manufacturer stopping making them after 10 years. Lucky for me it was just zero problems, but lately wear and tear turned every other annual safety inspection into a 1-2 week long wait with the mechanic trying to hunt something down. The last time they just gave up and fudged it.

My new car comes with a non-negotiable condition of first five years of regular service getting done at an authorised dealership as a condition of the car warranty. If I were to do it elsewhere, the warranty would lapse automatically. After the end of the warranty, I can take my car wherever I want.

No, you can't install your own or 3rd party software in a modern car, either. This is well known and is indisputable.

So all of that rings true.


Calling you out on your blatant lying isn't uncivilized discourse. Coming here and trying to persuade us that the mechanics, part shops and repairs we did don't exist is just bizarre.


Personal experience might not be representative of the actual situation across the board, but it is the experience I have gone through, and it is most assuredly not lying. If you choose to call that lying, that is entirely the choice of your own however misguided it is.

Anyhow, I can't stoop that low to converse with a random lout online hurling insults left and right. Enjoy it elsewhere, bye.




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