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Diplomatic options include returning to the JCPOA framework (the "Iran deal"), multilateral sanctions enforcement, or establishing a new verification regime with IAEA oversight.


Should US start bombing North Korea too? And Russia too? Can't let them have nukes either.

The initial nuclear agreement that Trump tore up was a good starting point


Iran was interested in another nuclear agreement too.

US just kept insisting on 0% enrichment.


And then actively facilitated an Israeli sneak attack that murdered Iran's chief nuclear negotiator.


IAEA, US intelligence said that Iran is not developing a nuclear weapon.

It was the only other nuclear armed country of the Middle East crying wolf, which they have since decades before I was born.


The hardest thing in developing nuclear weapons is getting enough enriched uranium, and Iran was doing that.


Quite a few countries take this approach. It’s a sensible one, especially considering how we’ve treated North Korea versus Iraq/Afghanistan/Libya.

Japan has the rockets, the material, and the know how. They’re sometimes described as a screwdriver turn away from a bomb.


if only there were some agreement we could make with them to get them not to do that...


I'll take the IAEA and US' own intelligence instead of Netanyahu and Trump.


IAEA declared that Iran has violated the previous agreements, hides their enriched uranium, and their enrichment is essentially weapons-grade.

> The IAEA report raised a stern warning, saying that Iran is now “the only non-nuclear-weapon state to produce such material” — something the agency said was of “serious concern.”

> The report by the Vienna-based International Atomic Energy Agency — which was seen by The Associated Press — says that as of May 17, Iran has amassed 408.6 kilograms (900.8 pounds) of uranium enriched up to 60%.

> U.S. intelligence agencies assess that Iran has yet to begin a weapons program, but has “undertaken activities that better position it to produce a nuclear device, if it chooses to do so.”

https://apnews.com/article/iran-nuclear-iaea-uranium-7f6c996...

> "The Board of Governors... finds that Iran's many failures to uphold its obligations since 2019 to provide the Agency with full and timely cooperation regarding undeclared nuclear material and activities at multiple undeclared locations in Iran ... constitutes non-compliance with its obligations under its Safeguards Agreement with the Agency," the text said.

https://www.reuters.com/world/china/iaea-board-declares-iran...

Anyway, there's a difference between having enough enriched uranium for a bomb, and actually making that uranium into a bomb. But it's not that big of a difference, it's not like enriching uranium to weapons-grade isn't bad.


We're allegedly a nation of laws and Trump is always barking about law and order. This is properly done by seeking approval from Congress.


This is properly done by NOT doing it.


This is such a weird comment. Yes, no to bombing Iran. What now? He's done it. Following the proper constitutional process might have prevented it.


Yes, absolutely. Iran has never started a war with anyone.


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Unlike, India, Pakistan or, say, Israel, Iran is a ratifier of the non-proliferation treaty and subject to inspections making sure they don’t. Meanwhile Israel not only has had nukes for decades but also continually refuses any accountability for them.

Indeed, to venture off-topic, Israel has sought nuclear weapons for as long as it has existed, which one might plausibly construe as further evidence that their state was knowingly and willingly established by military force, without much pretense that it could ever persist otherwise.


They wouldn't be the only country that made nuclear weapons. Or are you proposing that every country that's ever manufactured nukes be bombed into dust? There are a lot of them.


The there are broad types of penalties prescribed in the NPT, which Iran is a party to.


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USA should not act unilaterally and should abide by the NPT.


Israel did that, are you okay with it?


I have no opinion.


Your questions in here give the impression you do, and that your opinion is in favor of some kind of intervention. Military interventions have all gone poorly for us, while using diplomacy has worked over and over. Results should matter here and results say bombing is the wrong choice.


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> I have no opinion.

> I ask mainly to be convinced one way or another.

"Let Iran do whatever?" is not even close to a neutral perspective.


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> In any case the intent is now clear with this message.

The intent is not clear. You come across as lying about neutrality.


Man, no wonder this world is screwed up. Never mind then. I’ll just stop asking questions and let trump do as he likes.


> Man, no wonder this world is screwed up. Never mind then. I’ll just stop asking questions and let trump do as he likes.

Or learn how to not write non-leading questions.

Edit: Hey Hey editing all your posts doesn't make you look more sincere, that's just being more antagonistic.


Our own intelligence said they’re not making weapons.

They’ve said they’re not making weapons.

Trump pulled us out of a deal where we lifted sanctions in order to ensure there were no weapons.

This is embarrassing and outright illegal.


Yes.


Their meddling directly contributed to the current disastrous war in Gaza and lebanon. They also helped prop up the Assad regime in Syria. All so they could threaten a country 700 miles away.

I expect you to deny or water down most of my claims, so to spare a long flamewar, just assume i've given all the generic standard responses everyone here has seen 100 times. I agree with most of them.

But what business is it of Iran whether or not israel exists? They don't seem to care about palestinians too much otherwise they wouldn't be supporting hamas and the war they started.

It's a genocidal regime, despised by most of her citizens. They fund proxy wars across the middle east based on religious extremism. They deserve everything they are getting and with all due respect only an idiot would support them.


It sure sounds like you're talking about Israel.




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