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Looks rather competitve: https://nanoreview.net/en/cpu-compare/apple-m4-vs-amd-ryzen-...

Their website improved significantly. I remember I interacted with one of them 3 or 4 years ago and they were rather bulky. I wonder how much they have improved since then?



They are nice, but a bit more noisy than MacBooks in terms of cooling.

However, you can tweak some kernel params to keep them mostly silent.

Plus, some of their AMD offerings are really good for running local LLMs.

A Framework that runs Nix and some tiling WM is a very nice experience TBH.




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