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I'm in the middle of setting up a few 10s of PiBs with minio, and this does seem like a weird decision.

The deleted console UI helped you understand the data in the system, get started with it and do some basic admin. But for any real application built on it, you'd need to build some of your own tooling and get acquainted with the mc command line tool. It was a very shallow UI - it didn't help with ACLs where you just had a big box to paste your JSON into.

It also had a lot of asterisks to show you which tabs were premium - at least they were visible.

Now it lets you browse buckets, but not create users? All the premium tabs are gone. If I hadn't used it before this I'd have assumed it was just raw and unfinished.

It's solid software, but the documentation really only covers the happy paths, and there's no community around it.

Annual pricing for the complete package & support is about 75% of Backblaze's, but you have to bring your own hardware and network. I guess it compares much more favorably against S3, or maybe better still if you're going to exabytes.

But yeah this just seems like damage to the on-ramp for people who want to grow into it.






I haven't tried it myself yet, but Seaweedfs seems like a good alternative to consider comparing against...

https://github.com/seaweedfs/seaweedfs#compared-to-minio


I ran seaweedfs for a few years and kept losing data due to bugs. I just switched to minio a few months ago and have been loving it.

I'm thinking of going with garage i heard its really solid and they arent doing shady shit like this removal from minio

Thanks, I love it when I learn about an apparently hugely popular tool I'd never heard of.

Have you ever heard of Guacamole? https://guacamole.apache.org/

That's one of my favorite obscure projects


Thanks for the recommendation! A remote display and interaction protocol, that is interesting. I'm now reading about its architecture.

I like that they emphasize how the Java backend is one of possible implementations of the general-purpose Guacamole protocol.


My question is that given this, do you plan to still stick with MinIO (I'm assuming that whatever they charge in licensing is probably trivial cost-wise when you are at a company setting up 10s of PiB of object storage), switch to the forked one that still has the features, or switch to another solution entirely?

My client pays every other equipment vendor for annual support but minio quoted millions of dollars per year, which was too much.

Ceph seems like the only battle-tested alternative. It has a community around it, but the setup is more demanding than minio.


Ceph setup has a few magic moments, but after you accept and learn those incantation, it just works! Highly recommend. Used to be easy to get started with their all-in-one container image.

Ceph is demanding to learn, but once you do It Just Works very reliably. The cephadm tool makes it quite easy to bootstrap and manage a vanilla cluster, I'd highly recommend bootstrapping a toy cluster with it if you're interested in learning. Everything can run in a container, and there's a decent webui that's useful for learning and visualization.



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