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Trams here in Amsterdam are already the deadliest vehicle for pedestrians and cyclists no need to make it worse



> Trams here in Amsterdam are already the deadliest vehicle for pedestrians and cyclists no need to make it worse

Where are you seeing this supporting data?


The data I can find doesn't support the assertion.

> In the period between 2019 and 2022, 1,199 cyclists were killed in traffic accidents, with 42 percent of these accidents being caused by collisions with a passenger car or van.

https://www.cbs.nl/en-gb/news/2024/15/684-road-traffic-death...


Maybe CBS counts trams as "passenger cars"? There isn't any other category where they would fit.

This article states there were 5 deaths caused by tram in 2022 (out of 15 total)

https://openresearch.amsterdam/nl/media/inline/2024/2/12/rap...

Here is says that indeed cbs doesn't track it and that there were 21 deaths per year caused by trams, buses and trains, with 57% of those pedestrian or cyclist

https://swov.nl/nl/fact/openbaar-vervoer-hoeveel-slachtoffer...

this ad-article "Jaarlijks worden er om en nabij 150 personen behandeld in een ziekenhuis na een aanrijding met een tram en komen er zelfs 40 personen te overlijden na een tramongeval." - I think what they mean is 40 people in a decade?

https://letselschadekompas.nl/tram-ongeluk-amsterdam/

and here are some news:

https://www.at5.nl/nieuws/227944/toerist-19-overleden-na-aan...

https://www.dewestkrant.nl/dodelijk-slachtoffer-tramongeval-...

https://www.nu.nl/binnenland/2265358/fietser-overleden-na-aa...

https://www.at5.nl/artikelen/165946/voetganger-overleden-na-...

https://www.bd.nl/binnenland/slachtoffer-overleden-na-aanrij...


So what you're saying is the data doesn't support the claim that trams are particularly dangerous, or more dangerous than passenger vehicles?


A third of the deaths caused by a 227 trams compared to 100 000s cars? If you see a tram there is >10% chance this particular one killed someone.




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