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> But don't forget that saving 1,000s of people time is worth something

How many unnecessary deaths does that buy you?



I don't know. But pretending there are no tradeoffs is stupid, and also disconnected from reality.


>I don't know.

Which invalidates the whole point. There are countless ways that the healthcare industry could save time if it was willing to sacrifice an unknown number of lives.

How is this scenario any different from some other arbitrary decision made for the sake of expediency such as doctors deciding to no longer collect medical histories from new patients? Think of all the time that could be saved if you never had to fill out those forms the first time you saw a doctor. Who cares if that leads to more people dying, it saves some time!


We’re discussing this on a thread about an attempt to answer that question!


When I say "I don't know", it means I genuinely don't know. Obviously, since this is a new technology, it's possible that it is better than doing arbitrary things like saying that people shouldn't fill out forms anymore.

You're saying "some change is bad therefore all changes are bad", which is obviously fallacious.


No, I'm saying change that even its supporters concede will kill people is bad if we can't actually quantify either its benefits or its cost in human life. You talked about a "tradeoff" while having no idea what is being traded for what. That is advocating for change just for the sake of change. Opposing that is not advocating against all change, it is saying "move fast and break things" is an immoral approach when dealing with human lives.


Your original comment argued there is no value add. I gave an example of the kind of value add that you can get (saving money/time on following up something wrong).

I did not advocate for this specific release being better, and I certainly did not say we should "move fast and break things". I don't know who you think you're arguing against but it's not me.

I only pushed back on the specific idea that this there is no possible value-add by this kind of software.


When you can't actually quantify the savings in time or the cost in life, you have no idea if this is adding value or not. I could just as easily flip a coin to decide whether to see a doctor, do you think that automatically "adds value" because the coin occasionally gives me the right answer regardless of how often it gives me the right answer?




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