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The money power couldn't have exceeded anything without help from the two governing parties. You're saying that the horses are out of the barn, I'm telling you who opened the barn door and went to the bar to drink with lobbyists. The government's got the key for that door, it might be worthless now but we have to be very clear with the situation if we want to have any hope of fixing this mess.


Okay, sure, you're not wrong in that sense, but I think you may be confusing leftists with liberals. The idea that leftists favor the Democratic over the Republican style of modern party-machine politics, or indeed even recognize any meaningful difference between those two halves of the same sclerosing and hypoxic brain, would be a delusion.


I admit I don't have a clear idea about the leftists you mention. I don't know how politics can be done without a party-machine either. I'll stop here before I start sounding like a political cynic but for me it's just the nature of reality.


You've yet to study history. You may have had it taught at you, which isn't the same but can make a decent start.

Bernie Sanders was a genuine and extremely credible leftist presidential candidate in 2016, and a sellout stalking horse for establishment liberal candidates in 2020 and 2024. Understand why that is and whom his antecedents are in the American political tradition into which his example falls, and not too much else in American politics remains obscure.




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