"Children must be governed. Free men govern the selves." That's silly rhetoric. The traits that cause children to require governance persist throughout life. There is no magic biological distinction that allows the latter to be autonomous when the former is not.
As for organization versus authority, the latter is a means of implementing the former. So long as we are animals, and the only biological fact in play is that we are indeed animals, authority with the threat of force will always be necessary to organize us.
> "Children must be governed. Free men govern the selves." That's silly rhetoric. The traits that cause children to require governance persist throughout life. There is no magic biological distinction that allows the latter to be autonomous when the former is not.
Oh ffs. you really think I was talking about biological children? Or that parents are always right, and children always wrong, just because those are the roles? nah. I was just being brief. So congrats on making up a silly strawman, and pointing out it's silly.
> "the latter is a means of implementing the former"
I disagree. Justified authority is a result of organization, not the other way around.
> "So long as we are animals, and the only biological fact in play is that we are indeed animals, authority with the threat of force will always be necessary to organize us."
That's silly rhetoric ^^ Actually, only total sociopaths would only react to force.
And where did I say authority is automatically and always bad? I didn't, I just made a distinction between two types of authority , which obviously went over your head. Authority needs to always be questioned; justified authority survives the questioning.
As for organization versus authority, the latter is a means of implementing the former. So long as we are animals, and the only biological fact in play is that we are indeed animals, authority with the threat of force will always be necessary to organize us.