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Only on HN does ChatGPT somehow fear losing customers to Grok. Until Grok works out how to market to my mother, or at least make my mother aware that it exists, taking ChatGPT customers ain't happening.




They are cargoculting. Almost literally. It's MO for Musk companies.

They might call it open discussion and startup style rapid iteration approach, but they aren't getting it. Their interpretation of it is just collective hallucination under assumption that adults come to change diapers.


OpenAI was cofounded and funded by Musk for years before they released ChatGPT.


Grok could capture the entire 'market' and OpenAI would never feel it, because all grok is under the hood is a giant API bill to OpenAI.



Why would they need Colossus then? [0]

[0]: https://x.ai/colossus


That's probably the vanity project so he'll be distracted and not bother the real experts working on the real products in order to keep the real money people happy.


I don't understand these brainless throwaway comments. Grok 3 is an actual product and is state of the art.

I've paid for Grok, ChatGPT, and Gemini.

They're all at a similar level of intelligence. I usually prefer Grok for philosophical discussions but it's really hard to choose a favourite overall.


I generally prefer other humans for discussions, but you do you I guess.


I talk to humans every day. One is not a substitute for the other. There is no human on Earth which has the amount of knowledge stored in a frontier LLM. It's an interactive thinking encyclopedia / academic journal.


Love the username. A true grokker.


It is? Anyone have further information?


They are competing with OpenAI, not outsourcing. https://x.ai/colossus


They say no one has come close to building as big an AI computing cluster... What about Groq's infra, wouldn't that be as big or bigger, or is that essentially too different of an infrastructure to be able to compare between?


Groq is for inferencing, not training.


Ah I see, thank you.


Nvidia CEO said he had never seen anyone build a data center that quickly.

They were power constrained and brought in a fleet of diesel generators to power it.

https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intell...

Brute force to catch up to the frontier and no expense spared.


Pretty wild! I guess he realized that every second matters in this race..


I see more and more GROK used responses on X, so its picking up.


Why would anyone want to use an ex social media site?


From another AI (whatever DuckDuckGo is using):

> As of early 2025, X (formerly Twitter) has approximately 586 million active monthly users. The platform continues to grow, with a significant portion of its user base located in the United States and Japan.

Whatever portion of those is active are surely aware of Grok.


If hundreds of millions of real people are aware of Grok (which is dubious), then billions of people are aware of ChatGPT. If you ask a bunch of random people on the street whether they’ve heard of a) ChatGPT and b) Grok, what do you expect the results to be?


That depends. Is the street in SoMa?


Gay bears prefer Claude though

Gotta head to pac heights to find any grok users (probably)


Good grief, do not use LLMs to find this sort of statistic.


Why ever not?


That could be just an AI hallucination.


Yes it could, and we could be sceptical of any source, quite rightly, but to be sceptical without any further investigation or reasoning would be just as wasteful as blindly trusting a source.

Which source would you prefer?


most of them are bots. I guess their own LLMs are probably aware of Grok, so technically correct.


This is what the kids call cope.


Yeah.

I got news for you, most women my mother's age out here in flyover country also don't use X. So even if everyone on X knows of Grok's existence, which they don't, it wouldn't move the needle at all on a lot of these mass market segments. Because X is not used by the mass market. It's a tech bro political jihadi wannabe influencer hell hole of a digital ghetto.


That's a very US-centric comment.




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