> You want to learn French or Spanish for fun. Duolingo claims that it can help you. So you join, try for a few days and give up.
is that Duolingo fault or users? because that happen in any hobby. heck, take indie gamedev.! hundreds give ups for a single released game. we could also say that there are people who tried Duolingo and years later they are fluent because the app was the kickstart
you have to be quite naive/lazy to stick ONLY with Duolingo for a year or 2 and expect that you will be fluent. there's also different ways of approaching the app... like each lesson allowing one to read or discuss it with the community; meta-thinking stuff like "am i learning or just rushing through lessons?" etc.
i heard podcasts about psychologists suggesting that fluency is subjective and it happens at +4 years time span of active engagement after mastering the basics
Fluency is a different topic. In the initial stages, I am more concerned about the size of my vocabulary and my ability to understand what is written than trying to speak or listen. This is where reading lots and lots of material in the target language helps.
I have seen lifelong scholars of the Sanskrit language struggling to speak in Sanskrit because they are simply not used to it.
is that Duolingo fault or users? because that happen in any hobby. heck, take indie gamedev.! hundreds give ups for a single released game. we could also say that there are people who tried Duolingo and years later they are fluent because the app was the kickstart
you have to be quite naive/lazy to stick ONLY with Duolingo for a year or 2 and expect that you will be fluent. there's also different ways of approaching the app... like each lesson allowing one to read or discuss it with the community; meta-thinking stuff like "am i learning or just rushing through lessons?" etc.
i heard podcasts about psychologists suggesting that fluency is subjective and it happens at +4 years time span of active engagement after mastering the basics
i think Niklas Luhmann’s essay on communication is quite relevant here; https://www.unisalento.it/documents/20152/2157613/LUHMANN-Wh...