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Unfortunately, a lot of people here who live in apartments have to wait for any electricity to be added to the parking lot at all, even 120V is generally unavailable. It's definitely restricting adoption.



Yes, but also - people who live in apartments and condos are the most likely not to even own a car in the first place, and if they do, drive it the least.

The people who are doing the most driving are the suburban folks living in houses with big yards and driving 30 miles into work every day.

And that's a larger chunk of the total population in the US than the apartment dwellers who own cars.

Your metro may vary.

Rome wasn't built in a day.

Charging will come to newer apartments, and then older apartments.


In my metro there are a lot of apartments in the suburbs that are just as car dependent as any single family house. Some have bus service, but it is the service for those who after 5 DWIs can't get someone else to drive them, not the fast frequent service that makes people willing to take the bus if they have any other option.


Sure, same situation here. Lots of apartments in mostly car dependent areas.

But there's still a lot of single-family homes, yes? Like, the majority of people living in those areas are in single-family homes? So probably the majority of car owners?


30% in my suburb (10 years ago there were farms between it and the city so this is new) live in apartments of some sort. Majority is single family, but still a significant enough number in something else.


So 70% live in probably new build single family construction, likely with 200A electrical service in their garage. Those people can probably easily swap to an EV, outside other complications.

Easily 50%+ of households around you could probably have an EV. And yet people act like it's only some tiny miniscule slice of the population which could easily change to an EV.


Maybe people otherwise like me, but I've long ago realized for most people an EV with decent range (the leaf is not quite there) would work for most people. However such do not exist, if you buy new there are few options, if you are drive used cars you are stuck with what you can find.


So 70% - and this is a very atypical suburb.


It doesn't sound incredibly atypical. It actually sounds pretty typical to the areas I know, which are several of the largest metro areas in the US.


The atypical part is only that this is an all new one - suburbs have existed for more than 100 years now, so there are a lot of older houses in the suburbs, many of them don't have 200 amp service (though the owners are upgrading them as they as things like AC that need more power and were not considered in the original design)


Sure, there are suburbs that have existed for a long time and are still going strong. And a lot of 100 year old suburbs that became financially unviable and are now empty or torn down.

But large chunks of some of the largest metro areas are made up of massive suburbs largely built from the 2000s onwards. I'm talking Houston, Phoenix, DFW, Austin, Atlanta, Denver, San Antonio, Kansas City, Oklahoma City, Tucson, Knoxville, and similar areas. And that's just areas I've visited.

Sure, there are 100+ year old neighborhoods in Dallas. But around me, some homes were made in the 50s, a big spurt were made in the late 70s and early 80s, then a massive amount were built in the 00's to literally still being constructed. Massive neighborhoods, apartment complexes, shopping centers, and more exist where there was farmland just five years ago. This makes up a large percentage of the growth of this city. It's not like they're building 100 year old houses for the 30% of growth over the last 25 years.

Go take a look at satellite images of Prosper TX. Of Princeton TX. McKinney TX. Allen TX. Rockwall TX. Dickinson TX.

Where I grew up in Houston in the late 80s/early 90s, you practically couldn't find a house that was built before 1975 other than the derelict remains of old farm houses. The house I grew up in was built in '93 and was kind of out there at the time (had to take a dirt road to get to the neighborhood!) And there's been a ton of construction since then, going further and further into the swamps. Woods where I grew up playing in are now full of single family homes.

So no, the sprawl of suburbs continuously marching more and more into the country side isn't a new thing and it isn't something rare in the slightest. It's happening practically everywhere that's growing in the US and has been for 30+ years.




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