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anti-zionism != anti-semitism

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The difference doesn't matter for the purpose of this thread. The comment was crude, inappropriate, and unnecessarily political.


I agree. The comment that equated an intelligence service with a religion was crude, inappropriate and unnecessarily political. It is downright shameful to invoke the very real phenomenon of religious persecution as a way to discourage mere mention of a specific, relatively small intelligence organization.


Modern antisemitism tends to be rooted in racist prejudice against a Jewish ethnicity more then plain religious discrimination. And tends to be related to a lot of conspiracy theories.

I think its possible to fairly critize a nation state and and intelligence agency but some criticismtends towards mossad shark type conspiracies

I dont think


antisemitism was often driven by race and not religion

germans in the holocaust murdered jews that had converted to christianity or simply had a jewish parent or grandparent


Yes it does. If they were founded by former Russian or Chinese intel you would hear the same thing.


Israel is a democracy; Russia and China are not. Also, whataboutisms are childish arguments that don't belong on HN.


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> Israel isn’t a democracy anymore than the US is

This thread is over.


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The constitution of a nation and its practices are separate axes. Many US states practiced the functional equivalent of apartheid until the 1960s, but the USA was still a democracy nevertheless.

(This is not intended to reflect any opinion I may have about Israel's specific practices.)


If they were founded by al-Qaeda then you'd also mention them being terrorists, no?


Nobody was talking about terrorism.


I think the point is that the Israeli government is akin to a terrorist organization


I'm well aware of what the commenter was trying to suggest, and was not going to dignify it.

Every time a story involves Israel somehow--even if it's about the success of a business based there--it turns into a debate about Israel itself. It's exhausting and stupid.


If ex NSA agents made a cyber security company and Baidu acquired it I think that would be relevant.


Yes they are


Denying jewish people the right for self determination is antisemitic as hell, no?




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