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With anti-science sentiment in America, I think China will take over everything.


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What does Trump have to do with Sam Altman's management of OpenAI? If Harris was president, what race to the bottom do you imagine she would engage in so Sam Altman could undercut China?


hundreds of millions of dollars in research funding has been cut across numerous sectors


Trump can pretty much reduce Sam Altman's talent pool, his voter base seems to have an appetite for that. Also let's not pretend like private sector R&D has not been built over public sector research since forever. Seems like Trump wants to make public science more "efficient". Results still to be seen, but the perspective is not encouraging given the common wisdom on how basic science grows.


That's not the argument they were making. What they're stating is that the Trump administration is directly facilitating the slow death of American intellectualism, and that this will have downstream consequences for what advances come out of the US in the future.


It’s been 1.5 months, how on earth are you measuring these claims..?



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How did Trump make US LLMs complacent in two months? I had no idea Deepseek was a Trump grift.


Here's the comment I replied to:

> With anti-science sentiment in America, I think China will take over everything.

Look at what the current Trump administration has been doing to research institutions in the US. Nature published an article outright calling it "siege of science".

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-025-00525-1

At a point in time where the US should step on the gas to prevent China to catch up, it's actually stepping hard on the breaks. I don't think this is even up for discussion.


He didn't. And if you tried to read the OPs comment it's clear he's not saying that. And comments like this only prove his point.


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Anti-intellectualism means not believing whatever the intellectuals tell you to believe, so they're entirely consistent in their opposition to it.


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Even before he took office or did anything.


Just because people see it this way now doesn’t mean that is how it all ends.

The perspective of historians implies that they look back and see that it was, indeed, the end.

Which it isn’t.


Nope, it seems more like the point where the fall accelerates


There’s a chance the Trump administration can bring the US out of its massive debt hole caused by every single recent administration before it.

So yeah, it’s definitely accelerating, but the outcome has not been decided.

I’ll happily take more downvotes to point out that society hasn’t collapsed yet in spite of your feelings. :-)




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