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Seattle has those things, IMO. (You didn’t mention weather!)



Vancouver, IMO, is a far better developed city than Seattle. Vastly better transit, denser, more walkable neighbourhoods, and just overall very thoughtfully developed.

It’s just an enormous shame it’s become grossly unaffordable— on an income adjusted basis, it’s more expensive than the Bay Area. That, and the weather, although the summers are perfect IMO.


As a Seattle resident I agree with you on all points.


Seattle weather keeps strangers away. And drives sunglasses sales.


Seattle is awesome and the people are the friendliest I've encountered in the USA. Feels Canadian.

The weather kills me, though. The weather is too British.


You’re conveniently leaving out how pretentious and insufferable many Seattleites are…

It has been far and wide the least welcoming, interesting, and lackluster food city I’ve ever lived in.

Also, the coffee scene there is worse than SF, Chicago, LA..rare stop for bands and musicians touring, and unpleasant transit.

The only people I know who are genuinely happy there are people who moved from Florida, and wealthy white families with young children who moved there (from California) “because taxes and better education”.

Don’t even get me started on the lack of diversity and casual racism.

SF is far from perfect, but Seattle isn’t even in the conversation for places I’d ever recommend someone leaving SF to shortlist.


Sorry you're not having a good time here; that hasn't been my experience of the city at all. There was a moment back in the late '90s when I could have moved to either Seattle or S.F., and Seattle happened to snag me first; I still enjoy visiting SF from time to time, but I've never had the slightest regret about settling here instead.

For tradition's sake, I feel obligated to give you the classic Seattleite response to such complaints: "whatever, man; if there's somewhere you like better, feel free to go there."


> You’re conveniently leaving out how pretentious and insufferable many Seattleites are

SF isn't any better on that count.


Caught me mid edit..I agree..to a degree.

Seattle is another tier above. SF people I find far more interesting and smart vs. the smartest people I met/knew/know in Seattle. Seattle is like a pissing contest for nerd snipers. At least in SF we drink our own pee (at Folsom of course)


This is literally the opposite of my experiences :(




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