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> One of my theories is that Java actually has so much sprawl is because how good the IDEs were for Java

Not sure what came first - chicken or the egg - on that one, but I remember years ago discussing vim vs an IDE for writing code with workmates. We were writing PHP and I used a plain text editor at first then moved to an IDE, while the older devs stuck to vim. I pointed out that they probably couldn't do that if we were writing Java.




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