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You want the war to end so that Russians can do what they did to Bucha a thousand more times!

You want the war to end so that Poland, Japan, Taiwan and Australia no longer trust that the US will help them and develop their own nuclear weapons!




It is absolutely insane that anyone thinks giving nukes to Taiwan is a good idea.


If you think Taiwan shouldn't cease to exist, how else can you guarantee that? It's either nukes or US protection and nobody trusts the Americans anymore.


Hong Kong still exists.


Just not the same as it was. People are fleeing at a faster rate than East Germany before Berlin Wall


Other nations have adjacency.

Taiwan makes some of the most complex devices humans have ever constructed! They can figure out the almost 100 year old technology to make a gun bomb nuke.


US prevented Taiwan from developing nukes in the first place.


It is more insane to leave people to die because they can’t protect themselves.


I'm Australian and I already don't trust the US to help us.

I've literally never thought that the US wouldn't help us before Trump came to shit on everything.

Now I imagine we'd have to buy Trump off with "raw earth" or something in exchange for not being abandoned to China, and our head of state would quite possibly be berated publicly for wanting some kind of security guarantee for his people's future.

It's sad, I still feel like the US and UK people are closest to our values, but Trump only works for himself and his billionaire crony parasites.

He will end up with the loyalty he has earned.

Everyone around Trump hates him, and the US is heading in the same direction.


I want the war to end because I have no preferable alternative.

And you, too, have failed to present one. Is funding a never-ending stalemate indefinitely the only option?


so your alternative of inaction involves a likely outcome of raping and murdering thousands of civilians in the name of peace for thousands of soldiers.

Fantastic.


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You know, you all talk about “spending” and “giving”. All that money goes back to the US and funds jobs in the US.


the us can do plenty of things without spending billions of dollars that are short of this, and yes, i have personally donated to the Ukrainian effort.


Russia can't sustain their losses and they're not winning.

Their economy is a joke. Putin can't exit because everything will collapse slightly faster than it's already collapsing.

They can't even protect their own territory in Kursk. It's not going to be a forever war.

Russia's misinformation bots are the most effective part of their military.

Having said that, Europe needs to step up because the US has lost it's damn mind.


An obvious alternative is to increase support to Ukraine to give them what they need to expel Russia. The good old USA has the resources to do that but Republicans have blocked increasing aid at the orders of Donald Trump for years now. And now that he is in power he is finally blocking it altogether.




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