System76 laptops are rebranded Clevo devices (a Taiwanese white-label ODM). Even by non-Mac laptop standards, they are known for subpar build quality, reliability, and battery life.

I would pick a Framework over a Clevo, any day. And Framework has tons of paper cut issues - I’m not leaving my MacBook for high security work with Framework’s track record for firmware updates.

My lemur easily runs ollama, huggingface locally. No problems. Long battery life. Really thin. Rarely reboot. I don't have anything bad to say about it.

The hardware just isn't reliable, and the support doesn't have an SLA. I have multiple System76 laptops that don't work anymore, and I don't know what to do with them.

I have a clevo, it is still in one piece and runs. Then I bought a msi. That one went bananas on suspend once and melted itself.

Clevos ain't bad really.

Really? I had no ideal System76 was a rebrand..

It's a little more than a "rebrand". Here's a more nuanced explanation:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17040293