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That's so completely, diametrically opposite of my experience with both that I can't help but wonder how it ended up there.

> They also make python uniquely difficult to dockerize.

  RUN pip install uv && uv sync
Tada, done. No, seriously. That's the whole invocation.


So you've never encountered a stale python project that used to work and had difficulties getting it up and running again?

Do you actually try new Python projects out with git-clone, or do you just use the same 3 Python projects for years at a time (all regularly)?

That might explain the difference in experiences




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