"as possible" means an incomplete system that still relies on assumed axioms.

Maybe. I don't think so though. I think everything can be quantified and qualified.

Unless you can provide a proof, it remains conjecture.

I think what this branch of comments is trying to do is to reinvent `ideology` as a word.

I have no interest in ideology and don't see even the concept as relevant to any point I've made.

I'm not trying to call anyone out, just thought that what is being discussed is concepts laid out doughnut shaped around that word.

That's fair enough, I guess you could say my position is perhaps an ideology, but I do belief it can be defended objectively as possible.

My gut still tells me this relies on a human-defined optimization metric.