> There are many people who have tried suicide and were saved and have regretted their earlier decision to kill themselves.
One could argue that had they been dead they wouldn't even feel regrets.
> The situation can be reversed where the disorder is dealt with and the suicidal tendencies end.
Although the suicidal tendencies could end is there a single psy disorder that people can really recover from? I understand people get treated but it is mostly about alleviating the symptoms and consequences more than healing, which often is realized through the use of some powerful meds that really make that person disappear and be more a shadow of themselves. I never heard about someone being cured from bipolar disorder or schizophrenia for example.
> One could argue that had they been dead they wouldn't even feel regrets.
Good argument. It applies to murder and mass genocide as well. All those people killed during the holocaust? They are dead so they don’t feel anything anymore. I don’t see what the problem is.
> Although the suicidal tendencies could end is there a single psy disorder that people can really recover from? I understand people get treated but it is mostly about alleviating the symptoms and consequences more than healing, which often is realized through the use of some powerful meds that really make that person disappear and be more a shadow of themselves. I never heard about someone being cured from bipolar disorder or schizophrenia for example.
Plenty of stories of people getting treated and plenty of stories of people who lost their desire to suicide.
Say your 18 year old son wanted to kill himself because he got dumped by his first girl friend? “Son I respect your right to kill yourself, here’s a rope or if you prefer a gun or sleeping pills. Would you like some privacy or do you want me to be here by your side as you go through the process?”
> Good argument. It applies to murder and mass genocide as well. All those people killed during the holocaust? They are dead so they don’t feel anything anymore. I don’t see what the problem is.
Are you comparing people who took a decision to end their life with people who never asked to be killed?
> Plenty of stories of people getting treated and plenty of stories of people who lost their desire to suicide.
>Are you comparing people who took a decision to end their life with people who never asked to be killed?
No I am not. I am saying your logic is invalid because it DOES apply to people who never asked to be killed. If you USE your logic to justify euthansia, then I'm saying it's invalid because that argument can justify murder as well.
>Getting treated != healed.
So you're saying people can never be healed through treatment? I think we have a bigger societal problem here. Psychologists and doctors have no reason to exist in this world because their entire job is treatment and treatment doesn't heal people. We should concentrate on solving that problem first.
To honest, you can't respond to a complex statement with a simple one liner argument that completely mischaracterizes what's going on.
One could argue that had they been dead they wouldn't even feel regrets.
> The situation can be reversed where the disorder is dealt with and the suicidal tendencies end.
Although the suicidal tendencies could end is there a single psy disorder that people can really recover from? I understand people get treated but it is mostly about alleviating the symptoms and consequences more than healing, which often is realized through the use of some powerful meds that really make that person disappear and be more a shadow of themselves. I never heard about someone being cured from bipolar disorder or schizophrenia for example.