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Exactly. They are a scourge. My best friend’s son had facial reconstructive surgery due to a scooter crash and a coworker’s son broke his arm, quite a bad break.



Been there. It’s a hazard of biking in general. I love riding though.

There are fatal car crashes all the time.


I know far more people who ride bikes and I literally know 1 person that fell and was injured. I think it's very clear scooters are far more dangerous than bikes.


But.. it wasn't the scooter's fault, was it?


Most motorbike deaths are human error, not the motorbike’s fault.

But nonetheless, many people fear motorbikes as they’re particularly human error prone.


Yes, it was. They are quite unstable at the speeds they allow.


What do you mean by “unstable”? All single-track vehicles are inherently unstable and use that for steering.


e-scooters seem incredibly unsafe to me and I think the figures back that up. e-bikes are much more stable.


I've ridden many thousands of kilometers on all kinds of regular bikes, e-bikes, e-scooters (of the small-wheels kind), electrified kickbikes (of the big-front-wheel kind) and actual scooters (of the vespa kind) and it all feels roughly the same to me. If you're an idiot who couldn't be bothered to learn how to ride $vehicle, you will likely crash $vehicle.

The issue is that e-scooters (of the small-wheels kind) are nowadays the weapon of choice of idiots who don't take riding seriously — because they're the cheapest and most portable solution that doesn't require any energy expenditure (unlike a bike) or special skill (unlike a onewheel or similar).


Yeah, I’ve racked up more than 2000 km on my e-scooter too with no issues, and I agree with your assessment - I see plenty of people riding responsibly but some people doing absolutely crazy things on scooters (often riding on busy roads, and at similar speeds to cars - crazy) and think it’s just a matter of time when you ride like that…

On bike paths at the legal speed limit here (25 km/h) you’re far less likely to have problems, especially if not riding while affected by any substances.




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